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is a tamil action movie, directed by p. madhavan. the cast of hitler umanath includes sivaji ganesan, k r vijaya .
there was a lot of tamil junk too in that era – pilot premnath (sivaji ganesan), hitler umanath (sivaji ganesan) and the like .
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no, we are not kidding about pilot premnath and hitler umanath. . we’re still waiting for a refund from sivaji’s family for those two nightmares that may have rewired the circuits in our brain for the worse. 🙁
theatre lovers in the city witnessed a hindi play titled' aadhe adhure' written by mohan rakesh and directed by girish chandra srivastava at rai umanath bali auditorium recently... .
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tamil nadu will become the first state in the country to virtually connect 58 computed tomography (ct) and 18 magnetic resonance imaging (mri) machines located in different government hospitals in the state. the fully networked teleradiology system will be officially launched a few weeks from now... umanath, managing director of tamil nadu medical services corporation limited (tnmsc)... umanath... dr... according to mr... sanjeev... .
even a good actor like shivaji completely lost the plot when he acted in films not directed by senior film directors like bhim singh. without proper guidance and mindset, every actor tends to get disoriented and start overacting. the best example is shivaji. if you look at his career, his best films came from 1950 to early 1960s. after 1960, his career went through an eventual decline and saw him indulge in priceless overacting in films such as kalthoon, hitler umanath, mirudhanga chakrvarty, thanga padakkam, and many others .
mangalore refinery and petrochemicals ltd... a release from mrpl here said that moodbidri mla umanath kotian launched the programme for the villagers of yekkar, bajpe and malavoor gram panchayats. mangaluru city north mla y. bharath shetty, mrpl managing director m... .
mangaluru. ramakrishna mission ’s 39th swachhata abhiyan shramadan was organised on airport road at bondel near here on sunday. the shramadan was jointly flagged off by harish joshy, former professor, st aloysius college, and kishan srinivas ammady, infosys employee, jointly flagged off the shramadan... dedicated efforts of shubhoday alva, umanath kotekar, ashok subbayya and many others were behind the creation of this public utility... .
simple changes made to the emergency room protocol at rajiv gandhi government general hospital in january, as part of the state’s trauma care policy, are now making a big impact – a drastic decline in deaths among patients with life - threatening trauma... even if the radiologist concerned is not available, other doctors can access the scan, ” said tamil nadu medical service corporation managing director dr p umanath... .
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mr. bakhshi has extensive experience of leading both corporate and retail businesses across icici group... in 1986... thereafter, the central bureau of investigation (cbi) called in a number of officials for questioning in the aforementioned case, including umanath venkat naik, the director of nupower renewables, the former director of nupower renewables, mahesh pugalia, and rajeev kochhar, brother - in - law of chanda kochhar .
mangalore refinery and petrochemicals limited (mrpl) has launched a campaign to make villages under yekkar, bajpe and malavoor gram panchayats in its vicinity smoke - free, at a function at its premises on wednesday. the programme was inaugurated by mulki - moodbidri mla umanath kotian in the presence of mrpl md m venkatesh, mla mangaluru north dr bharath shetty and others. three gps... women’s health... smoke free village campaign. mrpl. .
mangaluru... pratap simha nayak, former president of district unit of the party and zonal co - in - charge, who felicitated all the seven party mlas - s angara, sanjeeva matandoor, rajesh naik ulippady, umanath kotyan, harish poonja, vedavyas kamath and dr y bharat shetty - elected from the district reminded them of their roles and responsibility... nalin felicitated the mlas by offering them a shawl and presenting them with a book each... ketto .
dakshina kannada zilla panchayat ceo dr m r ravi said that the panchayat has submitted a proposal for rs 17 crore to the deputy commissioner under calamity relief fund for work on damaged roads, bridges and culverts following heavy rain in the district... the work will begin on sunday... report within 2 days... clean water tanks. mla umanath kotian said that drinking water tanks are not cleaned for several years in district... maintain of road... .
the countdown has started for the 10th edition of alva’s pragati, one of the largest placement drives of alva’s education foundation, that will be inaugurated in moodbidri on friday. foundation chairman m. mohan alva told reporters in moodbidri on wednesday that the inauguration of the two - day event would be attended by dakshina kannada mp nalin kumr kateel, deputy commissioner s. sasikanth senthil, mla umanath a... at vidyagiri... mr... mr... ... .
mangaluru. pwd minister h d revanna said the department has decided to release rs 25, 000 per km for the repair of pwd roads, which are damaged due to rains. “we have discussed various issues with officials of dakshina kannada and udupi districts... i will sort out the issue through the meeting... similarly, puttur mla sanjeeva matandooru and moodbidri mla umanath kotian also explained the plight of roads in their constituencies... box... 156. 3km... .
[ india ], june 18 (ani)... bakhshi' s appointment as coo will be for a period of five years, subject to regulatory approvals... thereafter, the central bureau of investigation (cbi) called in a number of officials for questioning in the aforementioned case, including umanath venkat naik, the director of nupower renewables, the former director of nupower renewables, mahesh pugalia, and rajeev kochhar, brother - in - law of chanda kochhar... (ani) .
mangaluru. the people have been burdened due to higher taxes on fuel and power bills, and it has been a disappointing budget as far as coastal karnataka is concerned... mlas umanath kotian from moodbidri and harish poonja from belthangady were very vocal in slamming the budget, stating it was an anti - karavali budget... he termed it as a “hassan - mandya - ramanagara budget. ”. khader said. “it is good budget... related. from around the web... cricunion .
dr umanath nayak, head and neck cancer surgeon at the city’s apollo hospital, is convinced about his career as a writer now. after publishing a “technical textbook” in 2009, voice restoration after total laryngectomy, he released his first novel, fatal margin, recently. his next is a light - hearted take on how to understand wives and women, in general, better. humour is his forte. medical drama the novel is about a talented oncologist, dr veer ragahvan, who goes easy on medical ethics to make money. suspected of fraud and medical negligence, he is dragged to court, and the drama unfolds over the last 80 pages in the book. unlike his wife seema and 18 - year - old son jatin, who can devour any genre, dr nayak is a john grisham fan and loves courtroom dramas .
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topic started by oisg (@ 195. 229. 241. 229) on wed jul 9 12: 53: 44 edt 2003 .
i haven' t watched any of the movies you mentioned, but i remember that a whole lot of movies with sivaji flopped in the early / mid 80s. you could say he reached rock - bottom and started digging: (
people were shaking their heads in disbelief when he danced with one of the
sex bombs
( was it jayamalini or anuradha ?) in naam iruvar namakku iruvar .
then came mudhal maritathai in 1985. the first few weeks the theatres were empty. then by word of mouth the movie became popular and sivaji' s career had a rebirth .
how can people forget thirpu, kalthoon, raktapaasam, kannan vanthan? for that matter even rishimoolam was a third rate movie. ilayaraja music saved deepam. msv was too good in annan oru koil and andaman kadali. there was another
iru methaigal
sivaji and prabhu. they could have named it as iru pannigal: -). was he the same guy who did parasakti, manohara, kattabomman, navaratri, andha naal, thooku thooki and many more such? nevertheless, tamil films will be grateful to this wonderful actor of 50s and 60s. even thevar magan he did great .
dharmaraja - - i don' t know what is antisocial in this movie .
general chakravarthy - - i don' t know what is antisocial in this movie. again its a family subject
about other movies, i have not seen them and so can' t comment. if you look at the ratio of good versus bad ones from sivaji he probably enjoyes the best percentages in the industry anytime .
even, in the midst of some crap movies like l. d. rajakannu he did not fail to deliver good ones like kalthoon, deepam, thrisulam, rishimoolam and a few others .
he is unparalled in tamil movie industry. people who are not even 50% talented as sivaji claim that they are heir to him (kamalahasan assumes so). acting has to be inborn and not improvised .
acting has to be instantaneous, inborn and not improvised. sivaji showed how he can perform for all characters by even underplaying (mudhal mariyathai) dependending on the director' s expectations. the only comparison i can draw is illayaraja who delivers instantaneously as the situation demands without having to depend on samples and stuff
oisg - here you go. a better tfm connection for you. maybe this ir - arr reference can be tfmpage' s very own godwin' s law .
my comparison was between sivaji and ir only. i don' t know why you assumed arr (may be he uses samples). what i meant is unlike modern mds who need to listen to many songs, refer to samples etc, improvise for many days, ir comes to the studio without any preconceptions and composes on the spot for the situation described .
sivaji and ir has similar talents w. r. t. delivering as the situation warrants without any or much home work. the same cannot be said of any other artists in the industry
avan oru sarithiram' s review in a famous tamil daily had a single line .
avan oru daridiram
: )
from: yvs mani (@ 164. 100. 11. 114) on: thu jul 10 01: 22: 16 edt 2003
i think i need to clarify on
anti - social
- i feel all these movies are crimes against tf fans and sivaji fans in particular unleashed by d yoganand, kvijyan & co. in some movies sivaji s
anyonam
with krv reached
aniyayam
stage like general chakravarthy .
sangili - it should have been banned under npt as it created a
chain
reaction - - bringing in prabhu to tamil films .
but a thought on these films make to think about the other side of sivaji - deiva magan, gnana oli, rangoon radha, vkb, karnan. sivaji is like ganges... . at times you see dead bodies floating and almost dirty at the fag end... . but ganges from gangotri to till bay of bengal .
any disc cannot be complete with ir / arr here. ir needs to do lot of explaining as well for his rajastan, kattapanjayatu, poovarasan etc. arr for his vandicholai chinrasu, pudhiya mannargal .
if this discussion leads to the greater works of sivaji, i would be pleased .
what with all the trouble with our server i got left out of all the rani padmini sparring. the only rani padmini that i know of (and saravanan & oisg perhaps) kicked the bucket under tragic circumstances the wanton victim of some mcp! but that is neither here nor there .
ignore prev post i do not know what is happening here. my post in sotd has been duplicated here. my great post has bit the dust. the summary was i agree viswaroopam, chiranjeevi & mohana punnagai were great duds but the pilots & generals should be exonerated .
but one movie which i shudder even today is ironically not so much for sivaji' s performance but that of his co - star who had out laughed, out cried and out shouted the n. t. name the movie & the star for a year' s subscription of
vengayam' s vetti pecchu - viraivil ethir paarungal !
dharmam enge came in 1972, after three successful movies raaja, gna oli and pattikaadaa pattanamaa .
actually the story is good, the screen play was poor (a c thirulogachander) .
normally, in a mannar - makkal film, the hero would fight till the end against the' sarvaadhikaari' and capture the power in the end .
in dharmam enge, capturing power ends in the intervel itself. after that, the king (hero) appoints some people in key posts and does not give posts to one of his friends (muthuramam) on the basis that he is not capable of ruling. this makes muthuraman revolts against the king and finally the king overcomes that too .
a good story in those days, but screen play was very poor. has a good song - tms & ps - palliyaraikkul vandha pulli mayile (msv )
i can expect a similar thread on kamal too, what with his pairing with young, nubile girls as old as his daughters .
' msv migavum than nalam atravar. illaiyendraal, thannudaiya sondha padathirkku ippadi isai amaippaara?'
the joke was that in those days sivaji developed permanent rosy cheeks. know why? because as he was biking around in his purple and mauve coats, the collars (which were half as big as elephant ears in those bell bottom days, if you know what i mean) kept flapping his cheek with the wind .
two things about those trousers he wore, god bless his designer. since he was wearing them at almost chest level (in a sad attempt at paunch - control), it was said that the comparison of him with marlon brando in the local press was getting close. our man was the
maarla pant' o
.
the other joke was - what would sivaji do when his chest itched? simple, pull his zipper down. it was also rumoured that he had a second secret zippper much below this one for his ablutions. look, this is getting worse. . i don' t know what' s getting over me, my daughters are looking at me as though i' ve gone insane. .
anyway, after a lousy day at work, the very mention of epics such as ldr and yy has be going nuts. anyone from chennai game for a retrospective of sgs anti - social movies only, you have an over - eager sponsor ...
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there was a time, really, when ulaga nayagan kamal haasan attracted crowds for his movies .
we still remember going to clearview cinemas (now anil ambani’s movie city) on oak tree road, edison (nj) to watch vettaiyaadu villaiyaadu in august 2006 .
those days, ulaga nayagan’s stock was high and much to our dismay we couldn’t get tickets for the friday show (aug 25, 2006) .
so we returned on august 26, saturday. we came early and found ourselves a slot at the head of the queue .
but in a few minutes, the crowds started to gather and soon the line extended almost as far back as mughal indian restaurant at the other end (see photo below) .
and you richly deserve your miserable fate for all the garbage you’ve shoveled our way over the last four years .
the infinitely vice wise si wrote the following ‘rajinikanth’ post three years back, in august 2008, as if in anticipation of your comment today – why do tamils burn themselves? .
2. you write: news in ht today. “rana” will be rajinikanth’s last movie… .
as vadivelu rightly said about rana a few weeks back: ranavavadhu… ganavavadhu…. maybe, the prescient vadivelu knew something about rajinikanth we all didn’t then. 😉
perhaps, he’s trying hard to gain the status of a mass hero by acting in shitty movies .
but, nayagan and anbe sivam would work for me anyday. you can’t just rule him out after watching these two gems. i would boldly recommend these two films to an american .
nayagan and anbe sivam were all right, by indian standards or lack thereof .
@ gk: “perhaps, he’s trying hard to gain the status of a mass hero by acting in shitty movies. ”
there is no “trying hard to gain the status” aspect of this narcissistic charade he’s been carrying on for over 2 decades. according to a poster here called, “filmlover” (refer to si’s review of manmadhan ambu sometime around dec, 2010 / jan, 2011), kamal once thought that tamil audiences that appreciate jurassic park and titanic, would definitely appreciate hey raam. if that statement were indeed true, then i clearly see a man who has bought his cult of personality and is so blinded by it to the extent that he thinks rank entertainers like jurassic park and titanic are in the same category as a hey raam and also thinks his production values are as good as hollywood’s. either way, he’s deluded and horribly wrong, and that has a lot to do with the blinders he has willingly put on for a while now .
both are inspired from godfather (even though nayagan was based on real - life varadharajan mudaliar) and planes, trains, and automobiles, respectively. however i’d disagree with si and say nayagan was much more than “all right. ”
you write: i clearly see a man who has bought his cult of personality and is so blinded by it to the extent that he thinks rank entertainers like jurassic park and titanic are in the same category as a hey raam and also thinks his production values are as good as hollywood’s .
@ si: “production values and kamal haasan? god, look at the makeup in dasavathram. uggghhly”
so what? dasavatharam was ass - car worthy and that kamal winning the ass - car is an honor (or ‘kaanar’, as they say in tn) for the ass - car, instead of the other way around…. as the average kamal fan - boy would say .
unless there’s a miracle, it looks like the end of the innings for both kamal haasan and rajinikanth – hit - wicket (kamal haasan) and hurt - retired (rajinikanth) .
marks the end of an era in tamil films in many respects. the last big stars from the 70s and 80s. the last big stars to strike a pan - tamil nadu appeal (now it’s all vijay fans, ajith fans, simbhu fans, kombhu fans…). the last big stars to deliver several memorable movies .
i think si has to first define the yardstick to judge the talent of an actor. at times, it lashes out those buffoons who are crowd pullers like vijay for delivering unpalatable masala scraps and at times, it lashes out an actor of someone like kamal’s calibre for occasionally (or i would say rarely) delivering scraps like dasavatharam, ma etc .
when kamal makes an anbe sivam, mahanadhi or guna, nobody cares to go to theatre; would rather watch it in pirated dvds and pseudo hail it as cult classics. eventually, these films fail miserably at the box office much to the agony of producers (most of those experimental films were produced by himself – that’s another sad story !) enna ulagamada ithu !
why not si ask these so called crowd pullers like rajni, vijay etc to produce those cult classics? in fact when rajni was asked this question in one of his interviews, he said ” why should i? to think of a story line for me is not my job. its the job of story writers and directors. i am a hero (masala) ” he was trying to justify he would continue to deliver masala scraps like kuselan, robo etc and be a part of scrap cinemas / crowd pullers rather than sensible cinema. indians are fond of icon bashing rather than constructive criticisms. obviously, the indian crowd would turn the blame game to someone who at least attempts to make a meaningful / sensible cinema. now si also joins the party of icon bashing and try to kill the instinct of those who attempt to take such initiatives. in fact, si should ask this question to itself .
coming back to si’s question of “why kamal is not a crowd puller? ” i think si knows the answer .
obviously, indian cinema is not a fair level playing field like hollywood, where an actor does not have to be a star to attract crowds. there is no distinction between crowd pullers & sensible cinema. you can still be a will smith / marlon brando doing sensible cinema and set box office on fire. the question holds good not only for kamal but also other actors / si’s favourites (naseeruddin, irfan, manoj bajpai, pankaj kapur etc…cant remember their experimental films, if at all any ?). my point is why kamal alone be blamed .
you wont find an answer. until then, be prepared to watch height of inanities like dabang winning a national award !
1. by involving himself with shoddy productions like dasavatharam, vettaiyaadu villaiyaadu, unnaipol oruvan, manmadhan ambu, kamal haasan has proved that he doesn’t care a fig for the paying audience. he’s merely looking out for himself .
movies can broadly be of two kinds, the arty / avant - garde / indies and the commercial / masala, with the latter category frequently featuring big stars. both have a place in the world. what we find offensive in a film is if it’s a crude piece of garbage that’s not in the least entertaining or, worse, if it’s stolen like a lot of indian films often are .
2. naseeruddin shah was a delight to watch in a wednesday. kamal haasan made a jackass of himself with his affected mannerisms and phony accent in unnaipol oruvan .
3. we agree with you that for the most part, the indian audience is not encouraging of non - trashy films. and that is a tragedy .
4. btw, we’ve dedicated the above post to you with a note below the headline. we wanted to do it before we published it but it slipped our mind earlier. 😉
he may have been “tailunted” at some point in his career, but the man’s efforts on the screen have been found more than wanting for a good while now .
1) have you ever looked at an art of self indulgent artist? they go deep, very deep and the art forms an experimental study to find answers to their doubts. a self indulgent artist is a person who perceives art as a medium to explore his (and only his) perceptions of reality. if you want one, watch lars von trier’s anti christ. that is self indulgence and classy indulgence at that. kamal is not but there are very few movies where he was absolutely self indulgent, for example: mahanadhi, guna and anbe sivam. (who ever said that it is a remake of planes, trains and automobiles, they live in a universe where casablanca is equated to gone with the wind because both movies are about love, black and white and set in the backdrop of a war )
2) kamal was trying to become a whore like rajani, where rajani would stoop to that level of playing “hey hey super star ” at the intro of his movies. only thing is that rajani was an absolute whore and did not care for his feelings and all he thought that he was giving pleasure to people just like a whore does. he did not care about the artistic merits of his subject (the movie) or anything, all he did say was ” i like to give pleasure to my fans”. he murdered his artistic pursuits to give pleasure to fans. i remember chiranjeevi (who could have been a fantastic actor ever produced by telugu cinema, better than s. v. ranga rao) feeling sorry for himself that he did not dare to act in movies like rudraveena later. . but rajani has no shame .
kamal is a confused lot. he does not know whether he is creating movies for himself or for the people. he tries to create movies for the people but fails miserably ending up with a crappy piece in the end, because he did not leave his brain completely to the public service .
3) kamal is the one who wanted to study gandhi and created hey ram out of it, that is self indulgence in thoughts .
when self indulgence is coupled with aritistic integrity you get movies like hey ram, even though the indians did not get tickets to the movie as the movie was not entertaining. when ever kamal was truly self indulgent he produced master pieces. only when he tried to produce movies so that public could enjoy he failed miserably .
it’s the lack of self indulgence in thoughts that kamal is in the worst phase of his acting life. all he now wants is acceptance, acceptance from the public, shouting slogans of “ulaga nayagan” from the public but he doesn’t know and probably can’t make a movie like that .
interesting points, particularly the notion that self - indulgence is the driving force behind great cinema .
the same could be said of writers (henry miller), painters (picasso) and sculptors (henry moore) too .
i believe that in india there is a lack of ticket buying audience for artistic cinema. “hey ram” to a large extent and “anbe sivam” to a smaller extent belong in that category. kamal made these good movies with budgets disproportionate to the market worthiness and released it with insufficient publicity. i am probably over - simplifying it but in summary he made some poor choices with his movies despite lot of goodness .
you write: i believe that in india there is a lack of ticket buying audience for artistic cinema .
indian movie business is currently in a great flux for a variety of reasons (greater exposure to good foreign movies thanks to h1b / l visas and the internet resulting in higher expectations in some quarters, rising prosperity among the hitherto poor giving them access to movies, higher production costs, the urge to make movies for the global diaspora and more) .
on the one - hand, you have the run of the mill crowd churning out the same stuff while on the other end of the spectrum you have directors like anurg kashyap, who make movies like dev d that we are inclined to believe are not flops (business - wise) .
in these uncertain times, even established stars like akshay kumar struggle to deliver a hit. his crappy singh is king was a hit but the equally distasteful de dana dan, blue, thank you, tees mar khan and chandni chowk to china kissed the dust. go figure .
in our not - so - humble opinion, this flux, which could last more than a decade, may signal the exit of more than a few indian film - makers .
i should have been more specific. i had only the tamil film industry in mind. bollywood has been more progressive .
@ naveen: “i should have been more specific. i had only the tamil film industry in mind. bollywood has been more progressive”
no. all the hindi multiplex movies depict (leaving a few out) highly urbanized indian society or higher middle class indian society. (this may be because most of the film makers are from that part of indian society). where as in tamil, i see a lot of experiments going on. i don’t expect movies like azhagar sami kudirai in hindi. tamil movies actually explore deep down philosophical questions in movies too. (for example, naan kadavul )
you write: all the hindi multiplex movies depict (leaving a few out) highly urbanized indian society or higher middle class indian society .
so many prominent hindi films are set in the u. s. , uk or australia .
patiala house, we are family, kurbaan, blue, my name is khan, kabhi alvida naa kehna, singh is king, salaam namaste, kabhi khushi kabhie gham and ta ra rum pum .
“1) have you ever looked at an art of self indulgent artist? they go deep, very deep and the art forms an experimental study to find answers to their doubts. a self indulgent artist is a person who perceives art as a medium to explore his (and only his) perceptions of reality. if you want one, watch lars von trier’s anti christ. that is self indulgence and classy indulgence at that. kamal is not but there are very few movies where he was absolutely self indulgent, for example: mahanadhi, guna and anbe sivam. (who ever said that it is a remake of planes, trains and automobiles, they live in a universe where casablanca is equated to gone with the wind because both movies are about love, black and white and set in the backdrop of a war) ”
i’ll keep this very short. if you don’t see a difference between good self - indulgence and bad self - indulgence (ever seen “brown bunny” ?), or a difference between the way kamal and von trier approach their films in terms of self - indulgence, i’d suggest rethinking your rebuttal .
“2) kamal was trying to become a whore like rajani, where rajani would stoop to that level of playing “hey hey super star ” at the intro of his movies. only thing is that rajani was an absolute whore and did not care for his feelings and all he thought that he was giving pleasure to people just like a whore does. he did not care about the artistic merits of his subject (the movie) or anything, all he did say was ” i like to give pleasure to my fans”. he murdered his artistic pursuits to give pleasure to fans. i remember chiranjeevi (who could have been a fantastic actor ever produced by telugu cinema, better than s. v. ranga rao) feeling sorry for himself that he did not dare to act in movies like rudraveena later. . but rajani has no shame. ”
i don’t think his whoring out has anything to do with my argument. he whored out a lot…kalaignan, shoora samharam, singaravelan, etc. etc. are all “whore movies. ” even anthony hopkins has his stock of “whore movies. ” ever seen “bad company” “mi - 2” or “the rites” ?
“kamal is a confused lot. he does not know whether he is creating movies for himself or for the people. he tries to create movies for the people but fails miserably ending up with a crappy piece in the end, because he did not leave his brain completely to the public service. ”
no, he’s making crappy movies…period. please don’t make these arguments from authority on his behalf. you don’t know if he is indeed leaving his brain in or taking it out completely out of his “whore movies. ” those three “whore movies” i mentioned are flops .
“3) kamal is the one who wanted to study gandhi and created hey ram out of it, that is self indulgence in thoughts .
when self indulgence is coupled with artistic integrity you get movies like hey ram, even though the indians did not get tickets to the movie as the movie was not entertaining. when ever kamal was truly self indulgent he produced master pieces. only when he tried to produce movies so that public could enjoy he failed miserably. ”
a taare zameen par, despite being an off - beat film, succeeds because the producer and director gives much of the meat to the child and his family and relegates himself to a secondary, maybe even a tertiary role .
a hey raam fails because its producer / director / writer feels the need to shove himself in front of our faces, without allowing other characters to develop .
“it’s the lack of self indulgence in thoughts that kamal is in the worst phase of his acting life. all he now wants is acceptance, acceptance from the public, shouting slogans of “ulaga nayagan” from the public but he doesn’t know and probably can’t make a movie like that. ”
his self - indulgence is exactly why his movies suck donkey d! ck and they’ve done so for well over a decade and change .
if dasavatharam, vv, anbe sivam aren’t examples of self - indulgence, i don’t know what is .
1. from the perspective of the artiste, there’s only one self - indulgence, a fierce commitment and adherence to his art as per his own lights ignoring all other considerations (seemingly, an impossibility in large settings) .
none of that good self - indulgence or bad self - indulgence, which are ex post facto views of critics on the end product rather than on the process .
more often than not, what critics consider bad self - indulgence is actually the subset of quality (such as character development and other production values) .
we’d go as far as to say that self - indulgence in an artiste is not correlated to the ultimate success or failure of the project .
raj kapoor’s unwavering commitment to mera naam joker is an apt illustration of artistic self - indulgence that did not pan out commercially. the movie almost sank raj kapoor and only the stupendous success of his following movie bobby pulled him out of the financial pits that mera naam joker had cast him into .
to argue that taare zameen par, despite being an off - beat film, succeeds because the producer and director gives much of the meat to the child and his family and relegates himself to a secondary, maybe even a tertiary role ignores the theme of the film that focused on the initial trauma of a dyslexic kid and his subsequent flowering under the aegis of a sensitive teacher. the script demanded the limelight to be cast on the kid first and foremost and only secondarily on the teacher .
it’d have looked bizarre for director aamir khan to have thrust himself into the film any more than he did .
you seem to be embracing the artistic notion of ‘self - indulgence’ literally in this instance .
— no, there is no good self indulgence and bad self indulgence. i have seen brown bunny and i completely (yes) liked it. it is an example of self indulgence so much to persuade beautiful chloe to suck gallos di * *. 🙂
hey ram? which character you want to develop more? it was 3 hour movie, the journey of archeologist to gandhi killer wanna be was clearly shown. the movie was from saket ram’s perspective. except for a slow screen play the movie had everything in it .
in short, all his films were pathetic and flop because he is looking for public acceptance and nothing else. i’d wish him to be make movies which gives him a kick irrespective of a public liking it or not .
but then the south indian market had to be huge. damn lazy and cowardly south indian ancestors, why didn’t you colonize other parts of the world and forcibly made tamil an official language in those parts? it would have solved many issues. the market would have been great, piracy should not mattered, artists would have load lots of money for a single movie (this will avoid an artist to make 8 movies per year). it’s all our south indian ancestors fault. 🙂
all that i tried to substantiate in the above note is that he is better of the worst indian lot (read: upto the goddamn indian standards). that needn’t hide the fact that his recent ventures like dasa, ma etc are absolute garbage. he is not even worthy to perform a light boy role in hollywood production system .
you write: i being an “ardent fan of him” is too strong a word .
kamal is the most complete actor indian cinema has ever seen. he is the best method actor available to indian film industry till date. for those who say kamal is good only in crying, his successful comedy movies chachi420, panchantantram, pushpak, appu raja, mmkr, vasool raja etc is the reply to you all. even the so called great actor – sivaji (his senior) and today’s contemporaries like vikram and surya didn’t even try their hands on comedy. they are simply incomparable bachhas when compared to the caliber of kamal’s commercial / humour quotient. can you imagine rajni and any of the above actors capable of delivering crazy mohan’s dialogues with such comic timing and elegance as kamal did in the above said movies ?
so, correct your opinion about kamal. he is not only good in crying but also will entertain you in comedy, dance as well. he is an wholesome entertainer. and those who compare naseeruddin, anupam kher, om puri etc with the calibre of kamal, can anyone of them romance with today’s heroines singing duets running around trees without looking awkward? can they be crowd pullers with their star power? they are jut character actors. they cannot play lead role / hero. see his personality today even at the age of 55 !
and after all the encomiums you’ve heaped on kamal haasan (he can cry, he can laugh, he can run around trees, all truly great feats, of course) you dare to say that you are not an ardent way of kamal .
that’ s probably becoz indian cinema has set such low standards in acting that when you find some thing like kamal’s performance, you associate that to be oscar - worthy. my point is why he should alone be blamed when he is not even enjoying the luxury / status of box - office kings like rajni, vijay, ajith etc who does not even know the a, b, c’s of acting. does he deserve a fourth / fifth ranking in gollywood box office inspite of giving some memorable performances like sadma, nayagan etc? (read indian standards) .
i don’t claim his entertainment / humour quotient is as good as johnny’s but he is neither that bad too .
@ prasath. j: “he is not even worthy to perform a light boy role in hollywood production system. ”
yes, in the same generalization as an indian or persons with indian blood or not even worthy to be a maid or a butt cleaner to an average american .
yes, they are entertainers, as are ‘sathi leelavathi’, singaravelan, kadhalaa kadhalaa, etc. , but save for pushpak (which, thankfully, was a silent movie), we weren’t spared of his histrionics in any of those offerings. he just finds it necessary to contort, bawl, laugh, or even fart in a manner that is best described as ott .
@ prasath, via si: “kamal is the most complete actor indian cinema has ever seen. he is the best method actor available to indian film industry till date. ”
the man wouldn’t know method - acting if it slapped him across his face. case in point - both his characters in thevar magan and mmkr are supposedly london - educated entrepreneurs, who speak in a (horrible) american accents. the less i speak about his character in “unnapol oruvan” vis - a - vis method - acting, the better and in “varumayin niram sivappu, ” the man looks pretty well - fed for someone deep in poverty and hunger.
hitler umanath is a 1982 indian tamil film , directed by p. madhavan and produced by p. v. thulasiram . the film stars sivaji ganesan , k. r. vijaya , sathyaraj and suruli rajan in lead roles . the film had musical score by m. s. viswanathan . 
hitler umanath is a 1982 indian tamil film, directed by p. madhavan and produced by p. v. thulasiram. the film stars sivaji ganesan, k. r. vijaya, sathyaraj and suruli rajan in lead roles. the film had musical score by m. s. viswanathan.
hitler umanath is a 1982 indian tamil film, directed by p. madhavan and produced by p. v. thulasiram. the film stars sivaji ganesan, k. r. vijaya, sathyaraj and suruli rajan in lead roles. the film had musical score by m. s. viswanathan.