ots - 38 stechkin silent revolver
ots - 38 silent revolver. developed for russian special forces. [ 636x425 ]
ots - 38 silent revolver. developed for russian special forces. [ 636x425 ]: gunporn
stechkin ots - 38 i remain convinced that this stechkin is a gas seal revolver. perhaps you can find a review stating that it is not .
the rimless sp - 4 silent ammunition loaded into 5 - round ots - 38 flat clip .
ots - 38 revolver, right side. hammer is lowered and safety is off .
ots - 38 revolver, right side. hammer is lowered and safety is off .
what won' t they think of next... .... ots - 38 stechkin silent revolver urltoken most likely not be able to find one at bud' s... . .
. the ots - 38 is one of the last designs by the late i. ya. stechkin, a famous russian gun designer .
ots - 38 revolver, top view with cylinder opened for reloading. note the most unusual way the cylinder opens .
ots - 38 revolver, top view with cylinder opened for reloading. note the most unusual way of cylinder opening .
it' s a silent revolver, but it isn' t necessarily lethal past 30 feet .
ammunition is rimless, it is loaded into ots - 38 using special flat clips that hold 5 rounds together .
the revolver was designed by igor yakovlevich stechkin, who was one of the most creative arms designers in history. he was essentially the q of kgb and gru, designing machine pistols that actually look like pistols as well as cigarette lighter derringers and of course the ots - 38 that bears his name. stechkin died a year before his revolver made it to the production line .
i remain convinced that this stechkin is a gas seal revolver. perhaps you can find a review stating that it is not .
this compact double - action revolver was designed by the late igor lakovlevich stechkin. try to pronounce that name with a gut full of vodka. this little baby uses a system similar to the nagant revolver - the cylinder moves forward when the gun is cocked, tightening the seam between barrel and cylinder. and the ots - 38 uses specially designed 7. 62x42mm silent ammo. the reduced volume of gases expended with the discharge of the ots - 38 makes for a very quiet gun and extreme accuracy .
stechkin’s ots - 38 was built by the tskib soo (central bureau for sporting and hunting arms, a division of famous kbp organization, located in tula, russia) on request from russian fsb (federal security service) .
smith & wesson. 38 double action revolver decorated by tiffany & co. for the colombian exposition of 1893 .
ots - 38 revolver, left side. note that hammer is cocked and locked by manual safety. the button that controls built - in laser sight is visible above the trigger guard .
designed by igor stechkin, manufactured by the kbp instrument design bureau c. 2002 - today .
the ots - 38 (оц - 38) revolver is one of the most unusual revolvers ever made. it was developed by the tskib soo (central bureau for sporting and hunting arms, a division of the famous kbp organization, located in tula, russia) by request from the russian fsb (federal security service). because of its specific nature, ots - 38 is a limited production item, and is being used by various special purpose law enforcement units. the ots - 38 is an integrally silenced weapon, which produces almost no sound and absolutely no flash upon firing. it is built as an alternative to the pss silent pistol, and uses the same special, integrally silenced ammunition, known as sp - 4. the ots - 38 is one of the last designs produced by the late i. ya. stechkin, the famous russian gun designer .
ots - 38 revolver, left side. note that hammer is cocked and locked by a manual safety. the button that controls the built - in laser sight is visible above the trigger guard .
the ots - 38 (оц - 38) revolver is one of most unusual revolvers ever made. it was developed by the tskib soo (central bureau for sporting and hunting arms, a division of famous kbp organization, located in tula, russia) on request from russian fsb (federal security service). because of its specific nature, ots - 38 is a limited production item, and it is being used by various special purpose law enforcement units. the ots - 38 is an integrally silenced weapon, which produces almost no sound and absolutely no flash upon firing. it is built as alternative to
they also don' t cycle the special
plunger bullet
ammunition that this revolver fires. technically, the revolver isn' t silent, the ammo is! the advantage is that it is practically
silent
, whereas suppressors of the time were quiet but still plenty audible within a building .
firearms guns revolvers handguns pistols colt python. 357 magnum. 38 special double action
that is about the only thing that makes no sense to us in the design of the ots - 38 stechkin. it has been said that this has to do with the nature of the cartridge cases and alignment with the barrel that is mounted in line with the bottom chamber of the cylinder .
no the nagant uses a cylinder that cams onto the barrel to close the cylinder gap and seal in propellant gasses. the ots - 38 uses special cartridges that seal in the propellant .
a very interesting design brought to us by the stechkin automatic pistol guy, the ots - 38 was developed from an earlier model designed for vietnam tunnel rats, which fired tungsten birdshot rounds for some reason. this revolver’s rounds are only similar in that they are completely silent, using a low amount of gunpowder located behind a piston inside the case, meaning no gas is actually released when firing the gun, producing no sound or muzzle flash. the gun itself being a revolver also means no spent cartridges can be heard dropping on the floor .
. noiseless and flameless shot is made due to special sp - 4 cartridges with power gases localized in the case. the ots - 38 revolver can be rightfully called noiseless, since the noise level when making a shot and dry firing is practically identical .
the similarity between 7. 62x38r and the crimp on the stechkin cartridge, coupled with the wide gap behind the cylinder convinced me that this revolver is, indeed, of the gas seal design .
it’s called the ots - 38 stechkin revolver, and it fires from the bottom cylinder like a chiappa rhino in order to provide a much lower bore axis. this allows the revolver to transfer the recoil into the center of the shooter’s hand, more in line with the muscles of the shooter’s forearm. it has an integral laser sight where the barrel would normally appear on a revolver, and as we mentioned in the introductory sentence, it has a safety that blocks the hammer when cocked in order to deliver a single action first shot .
thanks, i hadn' t found that review before. given that, now that we have a modern remake of the welrod, it would be interesting to see it tested against the ots - 38 .
would like to know more about the
silent
ammunition. looks like it fires just from the power of the primer .
nosorog revolver, 9mm makarov. only revolver i know of besides the mateba that has the bore aligned with the bottom chamber in the cylinder .
firearms guns rifles revolvers handguns lever action double action winchester manurhin model 94 mr73. 357 magnum. 38 special
to 38 special as a nagent 32 caliber revolver. i am not sure a 1858 remington 45 back powder with percussion caps would be a better gun to have in a fight ,
the sp4 round is a silent piston design. no gas is released, and the projectile is subsonic. it' s no comparison to even a silenced 22lr. the loudest sound would be the hammer falling on the firing pin. the welrod fired at 73db, the ots - 38 is guaranteed to be quieter because it has no escaping gas at all .
interesting. i suppose a silent firearm would be useful if you didn' t have the element of surprise & are out of reaching distance .
firearms guns revolvers handguns pistols nagant revolver model 1895 7. 62x38mmr double action vintage
udar revolver. chambered for 12. 3x50r and 12. 3x22r. they made a smaller revolver that was basically the same design, but chambered for 9mm makarov .
i like it. finally a lefty friendly revolver that' s not a charter .
the pre - cocked hammer can be set on manual safety. this enables to carry the revolver with a cocked hammer. the provided safety eliminates accidental discharge with the cylinder open or not fully closed, with the revolver dropped or struck. due to barrel location beneath the cylinder, the shooter’s hand is steady at the moment of firing providing the best accuracy and deliverable rate of fire. the ots - 38 also features an optional integral
in this stechkin, even though headspace may not be perfect, i don' t doubt that the gun can be fired without the clip, but it may not be as reliable .
this revolver is a silent weapon. the effective range of fire is 50m. the fired cases are kept in the cylinder thus ensuring the absence of sound of fire. the cartridge employs a captive piston so there is no flash or loud report upon discharge .
engraved and gold inlaid north american big game special smith & wesson. 357 magnum double action revolver
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as said above, ots - 4 is fitted with integral laser sight. it is also fitted with traditional fixed iron sights, that have contrast white inserts .
“so i flicked off the safety of my suppressed snub - nosed revolver and emptied five rounds of 7. 62 into the target, each one so silent that you would have thought i was dry - firing the gun. i had a spare moon clip of 7. 62 ready to go. ”
ots - 38 resembles a traditional double - action revolver but it has many uncommon features. for the start, it has a more or less common exposed hammer with double - action trigger, but the action fitted with ambidextrous manual safety which allows for safe
cocked & locked
carry, for fast and accurate first shot. next, the ots - 38 fires from the bottom chamber of the cylinder, as opposed to most revolvers that fire from upper chamber. therefore, the barrel axis of ots - 38 is relatively low and muzzle jump is minimal. the large cylindrical housing, located above the barrel of ots - 38, contains an integral laser pointer / sight. the cylinder fixture is also of most unusual nature. the cylinder axis is hinged to the frame at the front, so once cylinder release (at the left side of the frame) is pushed forward, the cylinder can be swung open to the right and forward (while on most modern revolvers cylinders are swung down and to the left). upon the opening of the cylinder, an automatic ejector partially withdraws the clip with rounds (or empty cases) from cylinder. this unusual cylinder mounting is essential to provide minimum play between the firing chamber in cylinder and barrel throat, since the sp - 4 bullets are of pure cylinder shape, and thus cannot self - align itself with the barrel upon firing, unlike most conventional bullets that have conical or ogive nose shape. since
yeah
law enforcement
lol i like it. finally a lefty friendly revolver that' s not a charter .
i have not come across a similar revolver so far. to say exceedingly interesting is an understatement. very ingenious too .
weapon gun firearm revolver handgun pistol double action swing out smith wesson 1978. 44. 44 magnum american america united states usa
weapon gun firearm american america united states usa ww1 pistol handgun revolver double action swing out. 45. 45acp smith wesson 1917
the quiet knight is a primary weapon for the stealth class in blitz brigade. it is based on the russian ots - 38 and has an integrated suppressor. it does average damage for a stealth weapon, more than the heisenberg 9, and is silenced just like most of the other weapons for the stealth. it also has a decent rate of fire and critical chance .
weapon gun firearm pistol revolver handgun dan wesson wesson american america united states double action. 357. 357 magnum karl lewis 1968 oddity
edit: the problem with these silent guns though is that no matter how quiet they are, you could still be left with a screaming target. check out the field manual on sentry removal, none of the techniques illustrated involve firearms .
jesse mccree’s revolver is double action. for those of you have no idea what that means (which is probably half the fandom, let’s be honest, so don’t feel bad), a single action revolver requires that the hammer be pushed back down after every single shot. think of any old western with the main hero’s revolver. he / she hits the hammer after every single shot .
weapon gun firearm pistol handgun revolver british great britain united kingdom uk english england double action holland and holland h & h. 577 manstopper oddity antique 1870
also not to mention that
silent
guns don' t really exist, screaming target or no, because without alternative methods of propulsion, even suppressors produce over 120 db, and would be heard, but are more used to prevent exact locations from being determined from sound .
i didn’t know this gun until today, although i can say that its system was known during the late 70s or the early 80s at least (i cannot remember on what type of firearm at this time, regretfully, but it seems to me it was used to propel some darts or explosive arrows). however, you’ll find a very similar system conceived to arm the powerful spring of a british silent spring antitank rocket launcher designed in 1942, and named piat (standing for “projector, infantry, anti tank”). the spring of this rocket launcher could be armed by a piston itself powered by the gas of a blank cartridge (a 32 acp is my recollection is good). once the spring was thus armed, then it could be released by an all ordinary trigger, so as to push a bomb very similar to a mortar shell (see urltoken). otherwise, i doubt this stechkin silent revolver could be a really efficient weapon capable to kill or even seriously wound an opponent with a single shot .
the revolver is not silenced and gas seal is of little consequence because it is the cartridge that is silenced using a piston / self - seal mechanism .
good question! it' s too complicated and, when firing double action, it adds a lot of effort to the already long trigger pull. you are also stuck with the limited ammo capacity of a revolver. a 7 or 8 round revolver in a respectable caliber, say. 357, is a bulky thing. a 9 shot 9mm will disappear in your pocket. also, revolvers aren' t more reliable than a modern automatics. this is coming from a revolver guy who prefers a wheelgun for hunting and plinking. i carry a 10 + 1 automatic in. 45 acp that' s roughly the size of a six shot revolver for serious social purposes .
mp - 412 rex revolver. . 357 magnum, polymer frame, top - break action. made specifically for the american market, but bill clinton fucked us over again .
the revolver features a number of unusual features. the barrel is mounted below the axis pin, the cylinder pivots out to the right, and it features a manual safety catch .
unfortunately, we will probably never see this revolver or its ammunition available in america. it’s not that common in russia either, as less than 300 of these were made between 2002 and 2012 .
somebody pointed out that there was a semi - auto pistol that fired similar rounds, though i don' t know how and can' t click that link at work. either way, some cool firearm tech came out of russia, from these
silent
piston - rounds to ak - type rifles that worked under water and fired
harpoon
type bullets .
the unique crimp on the nagant revolver 7. 62x38r cartridge has the purpose of projecting slightly beyond the cylinder to seal the barrel - cylinder gap when the cylinder is moved forward in the gas seal design .
the other thing you might be thinking right now is, “that sounds cool, but you said snub - nosed. i’ve read enough of your shit over the years about silencers and revolvers to know it can only be done on a nagant revolver where the cylinder provides a seal with the barrel to prevent gas leakage around the cylinder. so this is a threaded - barrel nagant - type revolver, right? ”
in short, the “sealed revolver” idea, in actual practice, is simply underwhelming. that being the case, the nagant system is relegated to a curiosity - it' s just not worth the trouble .
there is one thing all of them have in common that is; they all really want the pistol to work every time when the need it. a conventional revolver is more like to work than any other pistol .
considering the gap between the cylinder & frame, and the similarity of the cartridge mouth to the original nagant revolver ammo, and the need of the cylinder to clear the barrel, the actin must work similar to the original nagant .
a double action revolver (mccree’s peacemaker) does not require the hammer to be pushed back down after every shot and functions almost like a semi - automatic handgun. this means every time you apply pressure to the trigger, a bullet is coming out .
manufactured by holland and holland in england c. 1870 at the earliest - serial number 455. . 577 / 14, 75x20, 90mmr british revolver six - round cylinder, double action. you might have guessed, but this pistol is fucking huge .
why don' t more revolvers use the sealed chamber and barrel system of the nagant revolver? i think the nagant pistol is probably one of the ten worst mass produced pistols of the last 150 years. we can tell you have never fired one .
luxurious twenty shot double action pinfire revolver with carved ebony grips, double barrels and folding trigger. the cylinder has two rows of ten chambers. the hammer alternatively strikes the pins of the cartridges in the upper and lower rows, firing through the respective barrel .
i get your point about the cylinder having to move back to allowed it to swing in and out without fouling the barrel but still doubt that it uses nagant type breech sealing. the comments by 'cheaper than dirt 'are clearly in error anyway as they state that the cylinder moves forward when the gun is cocked - check the photograph above and you 'll see that the cylinder is forward with the revolver uncocked. a second point is that they state that the reduced volume of gases expended with the discharge... .. makes for a very quiet gun... ... if any gases were expended the gun would not be silent. the cartridge is specifically designed to not 'expend 'any gases and therefore does not require the revolver to have any form of gas sealing. a third point concerns the comment in the full article that
the gun can be loaded with loose ammo or five at a time with a metal clip
. i think it may safely be assumed that the 'metal clip 'is an absolute necessity in order to fill the very large gap between the cylinder and the recoil plate. cheaper than dirt have no example of either the revolver or it 's ammunition for sale and it would seem that they are commenting on the gun only .
the gas seal system functions best (probably only, barring some novel chamber to cylinder sealing mechanism) with cartridges that have brass protruding beyond the bullet which can be fire - formed to seal the chamber / forcing cone / barrel from gas. such ammo is not common, and if new cartridges of the sort were produced for, say, 38. spcl, they would be noticeably more expensive due to the additional step in production .
i am certain that my reasoning will not convince all who hold other views. however, i will let them take up the matter of the revolver' s operation with one of the gun' s sellers in the usa, cheaper than dirt, in ft. worth, texas. their description says :
i 'm sure the cartridge used in this revolver was mentioned in a previous ifg topic... . what goes around, comes around i guess. for details of the cartridge used and other 'interesting 'russian guns and ammo check - out this link: urltoken... ges - e. html
smith and wesson model 586 l - comp in. 357 magnum with vz grips. a 7 round double action revolver with a ported barrel which decreases muzzle flip. this makes for a great conceal carry choice due to it’s shortened 3
barrel and squared ‘boot’ grip. manufacture - @ smithwessoncorp @ vzgrips photo taken by - @ john _ wizemans _ world
s & w was loading a captive gas cartridge in. 38 way back in viet namn. they were used in 38spl revolvers for clearing tunnels. i wonder how the atf will handle this issue since it is the ammo that is silenced and not the weapon. will each round require paperwork and a tax stamp? they will probably just require the tips to be painted green and ban it. we will probably have to watch sarco, century and aim surplus for this one, but buds has class 3 license, so they might have some eventually .
the sp - 4 is a unique type of cartridge. it builds on the russian
piston driven
projectile design of older cartridges, and uses a
piston
to seal the gases within the cartridge. therefore, no gases escape the barrel when fired, resulting in a silent discharge. the piston seals against the case bottleneck. presumably the gases slowly leak from the spent cartridge over time. the amount of powder beneath the piston is relatively small, as show by the cutout images. the tip of the piston centers the trailing end of the bullet. the bullet appears to be no more than a slug of the wadcutter design with a brass / copper sleeve to align against the rifling :
also, consider that loading and unloading the nagant isn' t all that easy. you had to pull the ejector rod out and then over. then you had to open a loading gate. at this point, you' re using the same loading style as a single action revolver. that isn' t popular among folks who want to be able to reload sometime this week .
the nagant revolver is an overly complex system with a crappy trigger. in order to make the cylinder move forward to seal the forcing cone, the action has to 1) rotate the cylinder to put the live round behind the barrel, 2) move the cylinder forward to seal the chamber, 3) pull the hammer back to the cocked position 4) allow the sear to release the hammer .
the bullet diameter is 7. 62mm. the overall case length is 42mm. so it’s slightly longer than an empty piece of brass from your ak or sks (39mm), but unlike those rounds there is no bottle neck; it’s pretty much a rimless straight wall case. the other unique concept here is that the cylinder opens out on the right hand side of the revolver as opposed to the left .
very interesting! the under - the - cylinder - axis barrel is used by others, but i do like the way the cylinder swings out. at first glance, it seemed like there was a large gap between the cylinder and the recoil plate, but with the
half moon
system of holding the cartridges, it makes sense. wt they don' t mention is the way the cylinder swings into the frame, but the side of the barrel is not relieved for the cylinder to pivot into the frame without hitting the barrel. since the revolver is silenced and a big source of noise in a revolvers is the gap between the cylinder and barrel, and since it is a russian revolver, and since there is such a vague description of the forcing cone, etc, i am suspecting some kind of gas seal design. it would be interesting to handle one !
but the ruger, being a single action, could use an ejector rod to remove spent cartridges, where the double actions could not - they needed the half moon clip to eject empty rimless cartridges. there is a shoulder (as opposed to a step) in revolver cylinders, and a 45 acp case would only go in so far. headspace may not be reliable, but this doesn' t mitigate against the gun being fired at all .
i' ve been making underhammer pistols for a few years now, along with two underhammer schuetzen rifles and a hunting rifle, as well as sidelock guns, but always in the back of my mind was that idea of marrying the short and long arms into one. i examined everything from the dragoon flintlock, the civil war era revolver with shoulder stock, the smith & wesson model 320, but mostly the numerous versions that were produced as underhammers. finally, this summer, i dove headlong into the project .
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nice find vikram, very close resemblance to the mateba semi - auto. the link doesn' t say how they seal the gas. personally however i don' t think nothing can beat their own nagant. tc
i 'm sure it doesn 't use the nagant sealing system because there is no need for a gas seal. there is minimal gap between the cylinder and the barrel - it fires from the bottom cylinder. what looks like a barrel at the 'normal 'location is the housing for a laser .
it does look like the ammunition itself, sp - 4, is silenced .
three distinct applications are made from this design - the first obviously being clandestine / sof applications where silence is paramount. to this end, the russians designed the spp pistol for the ammunition. the pistol has a floating chamber with a 2nd buffer spring to eliminate metal - to - metal slap against the barrel and slide .
grumpy wrote: i 'm sure it doesn 't use the nagant sealing system because there is no need for a gas seal. there is minimal gap between the cylinder and the barrel - it fires from the bottom cylinder. what looks like a barrel at the 'normal 'location is the housing for a laser .
that the upper housing is a laser sight and the firing cylinder chamber is the bottom one is quite clear from the provided description .
i am noting again that, as the cylinder swings out, if there is minimal gap between the barrel and cylinder, the right side of the barrel needs to be relieved or the cylinder needs to move backward, or else the cylinder will jam on the barrel before it can be swung out .
there simply is no reason to design a cartridge like that if the case mouth is not being used as part of a gas seal system .
i don' t think that the
half moon clip
operates any differently than the originals did in the colt and smith & wesson 1917 revolvers, and that is to provide positive headspacing for rimless cartridges .
in this design, there is an additional advantage that was also present in the original 1917 design - they acted as a sort of speed loader. the original 1917 revolvers could have been made with a step in the chamber so the 45 acp case could headspace on the case mouth as they do in the pistol. ruger did that with their single action that came with interchangeable cylinders in 45 colt and 45 acp .
i see the large gap between the recoil plate and cylinder as another evidence of a gas seal action. i' ve handled my brother' s smith & wesson model 25 enough to know that a gap that large, much less the rebated rear of the cylinder, is not necessary for half moon clip use alone .
but i still maintain that there is every reason to believe that such a cartridge is designed for gas seal operation. and while you do have a point about the cheaper than dirt description, they sell more than enough nagant 1895s to know what a gas seal action is .
read vikram' s post. it' s
gas seal
only as it seals the gas within the case. the bullet is not driven by the powder gases, but by the piston .
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the ammo for this gun is really cool. basically a piston pushes out the ammo, keeping it very quiet .
well, yes, guns do silence you. no matter where you are !
it is important not to stare at the enemy because he may sense the stalker’s presence through a sixth sense .
edit: this is some schoolyard shit
belgian takedown... then he heaves his body weight into the hips of the sentry while pulling up on the ankles. this technique slams the sentry to the ground on his face .
they' re useful even if you have the element of surprise, especially since most modern suppressors hide muzzle flash. very effective if you' re firing from an elevated position or from multiple angles, as the other guys won' t know where to shoot at, let alone who to shoot .
a really quiet suppressed gun - bolt action 22lr rifle where the only mechanical noise is the firing pin - is doing 110 db at best, that is pretty loud compared to the above, especially considering that the decibel is a logarithmic unit .
you would definitely hear it - but in the case of these
assassination guns
, if you used them on a busy city street, the target will collapse screaming and as you say no one will have any idea where the shot came from, allowing the shooter to escape undetected .
reportedly the suppressor functions optimally within the first 10 – 15 rounds fired. for those who prefer dry numbers i can inform that the american oss (office of strategic service), according to a document dated february 12, 1945, performed a measurement on noise from suppressed weapons to help evaluate their own just finished prototype, hi - standard automatic pistol calibre. 380 acp. all measurements are performed at a perpendicular angle 10 ft. from the muzzle .
from the document it can be seen that the average noise level of the welrod pistol was at 73 db, hi standard. 380 acp at 81 db and hi - standard. 22lr at 71 db. in comparison, a non - suppressed calibre. 32 acp pistol, has a noise level of 105 db .
if we look at more modern data, . 32 acp is quoted as being at 153. 5 db, almost 50 db more than the value quoted in the 1945 report. this implies that the value quoted for the welrod must be significantly less than reality .
in order, the individual shots of the 5 - round string were measured at: 125. 0, 124. 5, 124. 5, 123. 8, and 125. 0 db. the overall average was 124. 6 db .
this makes it around 10 db louder than the best suppressed 22lr pistol, a very significant difference .
so it' s just a big lead cylinder? seems like that would be inaccurate .
the bullet is a steel cylinder, with a soft driving band to engage the rifling. accurate enough at the 30 feet or so range it was meant for, and effective against steel helmets or soft body armor .
also check out the russian s4m, it has similar ammo but is a double - barreled derringer. the short barrel and low muzzle velocity basically guaranteed that point - blank range is the only place where it could be effective, and as such it was used exclusively as an assassination pistol .
wikipedia has no pic, so i found one on google for you guys .
i' ve seen one of these before, our old neighbour had one. : d
i live in russia, so no. one american couple that took pictures of everybody did, though .
a guy just showed me a link for the delisle carbine actually. $ 2500
they have a semi - automatic pistol which fires the same ammunition, the pss - here' s a very good sadj review .
average noise levels of 124. 6 db make it louder than a properly suppressed 22lr pistol, for approximately the same muzzle energy. the pss is however much more compact and easy to conceal, and its steel bullet is presumably a better penetrator which causes a more severe wound .
pretty awesome considering a revolvers ability to retain brass combined with a silencer for lower sound signature .
the webley fosbery was also technically able to be accept a suppressor due to its odd design, although i' m pretty sure it was never actually modified to accept one .
trivia: fosbery won the victoria cross while carrying a pistol he designed himself .
so i' m assuming it works like the 1895 nagant? which is also russian ...
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nope. in fact there is no silencer to attach to the barrel. the sound and flash of each round is fully contained within the cartridge case. inside the case is a piston. after firing the piston seals the cartridge’s neck. this eliminates the noise, smoke and flash by acting as a barrier after the round is touched off. in essence, each round acts as its own silencer .
this particular round was designed to be effective at up to 100′ and the sound signature is said to be at 110 db with no muzzle flash. it is a rimless cartridge and fed via moon clips .
“ah hah, but in the intro, you said it was 7. 62. that’s a rifle round. is this the only error you made? ”
the principle behind the ammunition, however, was designed by the people who literally went to the moon, or at least helped out in some way. aai (aircraft armaments, inc .) corporation located in hunt valley, maryland, designed ammunition based on this principle almost fifty years earlier for use with the quiet special purpose revolvers (qspr), a modified s & w model 29 that fired suppressed in the tunnels of vietnam .
it goes to show that even if a firearm description sounds weird, wrong or flat out stupid, it may still be something real and valid .
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about the author: mike “the mook” searson is a veteran writer who began his career in firearms at the camp pendleton school for destructive boys at age 17. he has worked in the firearms industry his entire life, writing about guns and knives for numerous publications and consulting with the film industry on weapons while at the same time working as gunsmith and ballistician. though seemingly a surly curmudgeon shy a few chromosomes at first meeting, searson is actually far less of a dick and at least a little smarter than most of the mad duo’s minions. he is rightfully considered to be not just good company, but actually fit for polite company as well (though he has never forgotten his roots as a rifleman trained to kill people and break things, and if you look closely you’ll see his knuckles are still quite scabbed over from dragging the ground). you can learn more about him on his website or follow him on twitter, @ mikesearson .
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mike “the mook” searson is a veteran writer who began his career in firearms at the camp pendleton school for destructive boys at age 17. he has worked in the firearms industry his entire life, writing about guns and knives for numerous publications and consulting with the film industry on weapons while at the same time working as gunsmith and ballistician. though seemingly a surly curmudgeon shy a few chromosomes at first meeting, searson is actually far less of a dick and at least a little smarter than most of the mad duo’s minions. he is rightfully considered to be not just good company, but actually fit for polite company as well (though he has never forgotten his roots as a rifleman trained to kill people and break things, and if you look closely you’ll see his knuckles are still quite scabbed over from dragging the ground). you can learn more about him on his website or follow him on twitter, @ mikesearson. [ huge _ it _ gallery id =
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7. 62×42 mm sp - 4 five - round moon clips, swing - out cylinder, six o’clock barrel, integral laser sight, double action, manual safety .
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…by the way, take also a look at the “captive bolt pistol”, invented in germany in the early 20th century, whose system is very similar too. urltoken
so, i’m not gonna be able to go down to cabela’s and pick up fifty rounds? : -) frankly, penetrating a steel helmet at 20 meters is quite commendable. i’ve fired. 380 rounds that wouldn’t come close .
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colt python’s in. 357 magnum with a 6
barrel: a pair of old school and high quality six shot, double action revolvers that were first produced in 1955 and discontinued in 1999, the python is known for being one of the finest revolvers ever produced due to it’s tight lock up, crisp trigger pull and close distance between the cylinder and the forcing cone which greatly helped with accuracy .
designed using karl lewis’ work at high standard, manufactured by daniel b wesson’s grandson dan wesson c. 1968 - onward. . 357 magnum six - round cylinder, removable barrel with recessed nut at the bore and a full underlug, adjustable sights. thicc .
manufactured by s & w c. 1978 - today, engraved by jerome c. glimm. . 44 magnum six - round swing - out cylinder, double action, 6. 5″ barrel with full lug, birdhead rosewood grips. a stainless finish variant of dirty harry’s model 29. basically a clean harry .
if you look at mccree when he shoots, his left hand never goes near the hammer until he fans it .
what i’m getting at here is this…there is literally no reason for mccree to fan the hammer other than for the cowboy aesthetic that he holds so dear. and no, this isn’t him acting stupid or pretending to be stupid. it’s just his style .
the first retailed by wilkinson & son, 27 pall mall, london, no. 461, circa 1855, the second by underwood, 56 haymarket, london, circa 1870the first with octagonal sighted barrel engraved ’m. gen. l, cunynghame c. b. ’ along the right flat and signed in full along the top - strap, cylinder and foliate scroll engraved frame, the latter engraved with the serial number on one side, arbor - pin catch, blued safety - strap, trigger - guard, butt - cap with hinged ovoidal butt - trap cover, brazier patent rammer engraved ‘joseph brazier’s patent no. 750’, gilt trigger, and chequered figured rounded butt, the metal surfaces overall finely decorated in indian gold koftgari flower - heads and foliage, the cylinder with symmetrical scrolling foliage, and in fine condition, london proof marks; the second with bright fullered blade double - edged at the point and stamped with maker’s details on one side, hilt with white - metal mounts including guard engraved' sir a. cunynghame from his son h. c. ’, and natural staghorn grip, in original leather scabbard. 13 cm barrel and 20. 3 cm blade .
designed as the second model hand ejector, upgraded c. 1917 to supply the us expeditionary force with standardized. 45acp guns during ww1. . 45acp six - round cylinder, reloaded using two half - moon three - round clips, swing out double action. seen here with a neat ammo pouch and a cartridge box. not a colt m1917, always second guess what you read on the internet.
the ots-38 stechkin is a 5-shot , double-action revolver , in production and service with the russian army since 2002 and russian internal troops since 2012 , chambered in the silent 7.62 × 42 mm sp-4 cartridge . 
the ots-38 stechkin is a 5-shot, double-action revolver, in production and service with the russian army since 2002 and russian internal troops since 2012, chambered in the silent 7.62 × 42 mm sp-4 cartridge.
the ots-38 stechkin is a 5-shot, double-action revolver, in production and service with the russian army since 2002 and russian internal troops since 2012, chambered in the silent 7.62 × 42 mm sp-4 cartridge.