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| To shift from one mood to another, Because, you |
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| know, what upsets me, like, is like some students |
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| do not do their reports. This makes me mad. But I |
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| don't want to be mad. I want to be glad, you know, |
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| with a student who seems to have written something |
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| poetic. Okay, good. |
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| My daily report. When I remember the lecture last |
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| day, I become so optimistic by this way. The |
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| previous lecture was rhythm and rhyme. I prepared |
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| a lot to that lecture, which has a nice sight and |
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| style. As usual, the lecturer asked who wrote the |
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| daily report. I began to wait with some confusion |
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| and can't control. After a short time of waiting, |
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| my heart began to hurry up and I wished to fly. |
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| because of the shockness and frightness that I |
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| felt for the first time. In spite of this, our |
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| kind teacher motivated me by saying, you are good, |
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| do not be shy. I finished the poem with some |
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| repetition of the sound mind. He gave us a new |
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| hope to activate our mind. He encouraged us by |
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| saying, whatever you say will be right. Time is |
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| over, the teacher thanked us and the class is |
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| finished. He said, you should prepare for the next |
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| time or you will be punished. Okay, thank you. I |
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| didn't like threaten, but I want to motivate you. |
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| It's good. Thank you very much for like having |
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| this positive attitude. Let's see somebody who's |
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| willing there. Yes. |
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| Assalamualaikum. When I sit to write my report, I |
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| remember the last lecture and some student when |
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| read their reports, which write it in about it |
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| way. I tried to write my report in that way, but I |
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| think writing a poem is a gift. Not anyone can |
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| write it. But still you can experiment, you know. |
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| I know you might be gifted. Who knows? Maybe. |
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| Okay, not anyone can write poem or verses, maybe |
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| if I read more, teach more about poetry or maybe |
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| at the end of this course I can write couple of |
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| verse The last lecture was very interesting |
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| because we learn new things about rhyme and |
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| rhythm, it is very important because we should |
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| apply it in the whole poems Okay, thank you very |
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| much. I would be satisfied with like these two |
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| reports. I know like many of you wrote wonderful |
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| reports, but this is like the trick. It's like to |
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| get you to write and, you know, keep it because at |
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| the end I'll collect all of them and just look at |
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| the way you're writing. Good. Today, we're going |
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| to see Sir Philip Sidney and his poem, Litany. But |
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| I know you have read much about Sidney. You have |
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| read the poem. You have read Spencer. Because this |
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| week, we are doing Spencer as well. So I need |
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| somebody who thinks she has a wonderful response |
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| to Litany. |
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| And then I can come to you and see what kind of |
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| responses you have. Okay. Love is dead. That's |
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| what Sir Philip Sidney said. It truly reflects how |
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| he revealed sadness, anger, and regret. God, Lord, |
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| deliver us. It was hearty prayer rather than |
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| expression exasperated. Cursing love is what he |
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| meant. Pity and fear is what I sensed. Alas, fear |
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| the pain of love is what we shot. Then I read the |
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| sarcastic shift. He got rejected. It wasn't |
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| something he did, but because of his mistress' |
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| wit. So love isn't dead. In her mind, she's |
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| waiting for Mr. Right, for Mr. Right. And I hope |
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| she'll never find, because I'm sick of something |
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| called one love side. Okay, good. This is, you |
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| know, a wonderful parody. You know, it is as if |
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| she's giving us an example of a parody. But like |
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| her critique, you know, this is a critique of the |
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| poem. It seems like she is denouncing the poet. |
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| She's not happy with the poet, you know? But let's |
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| see, perhaps some of you have different point of |
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| view. Okay, just like I need you to talk, you |
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| know? Yeah, what do you think? No, just my eyes. |
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| You read the book? Again? Okay, but I know It's |
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| like they love to talk. OK. For my reading, I |
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| found the theme is about Cordial love. It is about |
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| one-sided love. And his beloved rejected him. And |
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| he decided to write a poem to describe it, to |
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| describe his death and stuff like that. So it is |
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| very traditional Cordial love poem, do you think? |
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| And is he like reading the same way other poets |
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| read? More than. More than. He's like very, like, |
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| he's crazy. Yeah. That's scandalizing. Yeah. He |
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| was very serious. You think that he's exaggerating |
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| things. Good. OK. Let's see someone else. What do |
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| you think? Yes? The thing that he used to express, |
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| he used too much figurative speech to strengthen |
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| the idea, strengthen the pain or the emotion that |
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| he wanted to transfer to the reader of the other |
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| people. He used too much figurative speech. |
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| So his home was full of figures of speech? And you |
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| like his style? Yeah. Do you remember any of these |
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| figures? Yeah, one of them is dead. Which is like |
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| what? Personalization. And it's very bizarre, very |
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| funny, very irrational. Come on, give me a break. |
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| It's crazy. But I think later about this, |
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| assumption is very critical when we see the whole |
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| atmosphere. I don't know why you don't like the |
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| atmosphere. It's very cloudy and you feel like |
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| it's really dark. It feels like it's pouring into |
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| your heart something like really bad. Yeah, why? |
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| Like pinching your heart or something. But I think |
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| you know what aggravates the whole situation is |
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| like It's like a killer, isn't it? Killer, the |
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| anger, the violence coming here. So I think he's |
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| exaggerating about it. He's angry with all women. |
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| Do you think he has a point? Do you think |
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| he has a point? |
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| So he's judgmental and you don't like it I think |
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| you know at the end of the poem he changes by the |
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| direction Yeah, so he back up and some say I'm |
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| sorry I You know, I didn't mean that, you know. |
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| No, I'm not that crazy, you know. So did he say |
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| that? No, I don't think so. You don't think so? |
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| Okay. He considered that I should protect him from |
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| women and he considered that women are all |
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| resources for him. Yeah, but you're right, but I |
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| think later he backed up and he started to say, |
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| no, it is like I didn't mean this, you know, I was |
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| angry and this is what made me commit such a |
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| folly. You see what I mean? I mean, this is very |
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| confusing, isn't it? Good. And let's see. Yes. |
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| Somebody else. Like still mind where? Yes, please. |
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| As crazy as the poet. I'm not going. Okay, good. |
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| So I see that some of you are not happy with the |
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| poet. Some of you are not happy with the |
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| atmosphere of the whole poem. It is very sad, very |
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| morbid you know however it seems like some of you |
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| the other are like and do not share the same |
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| opinion some of you like think it's a good power |
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| Yes? |
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| Yes, |
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| so yeah I think he has a point because you know |
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| he's a man who seems to be very noble and you know |
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| he's rejected because you know what like all you |
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| know because the lady seems to be scoffing, the |
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| lady seems to be arrogant And I think he gave |
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| enough reasons why he was not happy with her. |
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| Yeah, |
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| I think yes, when Amal is going to talk today, |
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| she's going to tell us about, you know, you know, |
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| Sydney as a, you know, a courtier, as a noble, as |
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| a sir, as a warrior, you know, he was he was like |
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| a man who some of the spirit of the Elizabethan |
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| idea of man as a paragon, as a wonderful. So yeah, |
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| he was like many things in one thing. He was an |
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| exemplar of what an Elizabethan man should be. And |
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| again, we'd see how he was trying to fit himself |
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| with the cultural norms of the time, like |
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| courtiers should be educated, should be |
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| intellectuals, should be lovers, should be |
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| knights, should be, you know, that was a holistic |
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| idea of like, you know, a courtier or a courtier |
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| lover. Good. Yes? I think the poet succeeds to use |
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| a very confusing and choosing the best figurative |
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| language to express and achieve the theme of this |
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| poem. And he used black elements in the poem to So |
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| you were attracted by the aesthetics, you know? |
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| What is like the most memorable line you have in |
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| the poem? Love is there. God, Lord deliver us. |
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| God, Lord deliver us. Like it's a prayer. It is a |
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| supplication. Have you ever seen supplication? |
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| Somebody like making supplication like this. Very |
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| good. Yeah, hold on please. Yes? My initial |
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| response, I felt like he was really depressed. And |
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| I felt like he was just trying to pour himself |
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| out, to get people to feel what he's feeling. |
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| Because all the words that he used, like infected, |
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| disdained, rejected, ungrateful. So do you want to |
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| say, like, he was sentimental? Yeah. And he was |
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| trying, like, to exaggerate his, you know, ordeal |
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| in order, like, to get the sympathy of the people? |
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| Hey, come, come. It's a possibility, but however, |
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| sometimes when pain and agony are too much to put |
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| up with, you might use this method. So we don't |
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| know. He might be exaggerating, and he might be |
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| honest. This depends on the relationship. |
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| You were attracted by the title literally. What is |
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| a literary by the way, you know? It is a sad song. |
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| It is a sad song, yeah. |
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| Yeah, you think it was like a funeral, you know? |
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| Yeah, so you were attracted with the title? Good. |
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| Any other response from those who are at the back? |
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| Yes, please. I think that he's an anti-feminist |
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| poet that he asked young to protect the society |
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| and to protect women from the... So you're not |
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| happy, so you think he's anti-feminist. I think, |
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| What do you want to say, Amal? I want to talk |
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| about Philip Sidney. At first, Philip Sidney is a |
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| poet, a soldier, and one of the most prominent |
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| characters in the Elizabethan Age. The reason why |
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| I mention that he was a soldier is because it is |
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| what gave him the title Sir or Sire. It was given |
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| to soldiers at that time, at that court. He was |
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| very much interested in politics and in arts. that |
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| he worked for the Queen Elizabeth I and as he said |
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| he was the favorite for her. He traveled through |
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| Europe, Italy, France, Germany where he met a lot |
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| of intellectuals and of course politicians. Philip |
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| Sidney encouraged a lot writers and poets at that |
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| time, especially Edmund Spencer, who dedicated a |
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| song, a poem after that for him, which was called |
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| The Shepherd's Calendar. They say that when Philip |
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| Sidney started reading that poem, he was so much |
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| fascinated that he ordered, after reading the |
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| first stanza, he ordered 200 pounds to be given to |
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| Edmund Spencer, which was a great honor for him, |
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| of course. After that, for some reason, Sir Philip |
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| Sidney retired from court and working for the |
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| Queen, and then he started writing his works. He |
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| wrote Astrophel and Stella, which is the first and |
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| famous English sonnet sequence. It includes 108 |
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| sonnets and 11 songs. As any other poet at that |
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| time, Sir Philip Sidney was too fascinated and |
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| influenced by Petrarch and his conventions that he |
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| actually, he followed the Petrarchan rhyme scheme |
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| in a lot of his sonnets. Wait a minute, like |
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| Astrophel and Stella, like this is a collection of |
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| sonnets, I think. We have 108 sonnets. And you |
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| know, Stella means star, I think. And Astrophel |
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| means the lover of a star. So are we talking about |
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| like a collection of poetry which we can call love |
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| poetry? They say that he dedicated a lot of his |
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| songs to his love, to his lover, a girl. Yeah, I |
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| think Penelope de Vorex. Yes. If you remember my |
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| name, Penelope, Penelope, Penelope de Vorex. You |
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| know, it seemed like there was saying about like |
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| he when she was 13 that he was the one who was |
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| going to marry, but they never married. And you |
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| know, she married to another anyone. But like you |
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| see, that love did not succeed or that marriage |
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| did not succeed and you know like Sidney and this |
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| lady became you know like they remained and he |
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| dedicated the whole volume for her okay. After |
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| that he wrote The Countess of Primbrock's Arcadia |
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| or the Arcadia or other words they call it the old |
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| Arcadia. It is a long prose work that is basically |
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| a romance that combines pastoral elements with |
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| some Greek elements called I believe Hellenistic |
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| or something like that. In it he highly idealized |
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| the life of a shepherd and he also talked about |
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| some treachery, rapes, battles and kidnapping. So |
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| this is like a way this is what we call Pastoral |
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| poetry, which is away from the complication of the |
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| city life, as if he, you know, Osama bin Laden was |
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| criticizing the complexity, the corruption of the |
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| city life. So we're talking about a new genre, and |
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| I think, you know, Sir Philip Sidney was like, you |
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| know, wonderful in this genre. Okay, I think you |
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| have something about his defense of poetry. It is |
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| one of the most important contributions to the |
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| English literature as a whole. In it, he addressed |
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| the objections of Plato. As we all know, he didn't |
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| like poetry a lot. So he addressed these, he |
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| defended poetry in this. And also, he also talked |
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| about how poetry is noble, the nobility of poetry, |
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| that poetry, poetry is for teaching and delighting |
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| and horrors. I think he was, you know, responding |
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| or he was trying like to respond to the accusation |
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| of, you know, the Puritan critic Stephen Gossen, |
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| who accused poetry as being the mother of lies, |
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| being immoral, being, you know, just like this at |
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| some point. But I'm interested, like, how he |
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| refuted, like, you know, Gossen's allegation about |
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| poetry being the mother of lies. What did he say? |
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| He said that poetry is the only genre or the only |
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| branch of knowledge which never tells lies, |
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| because it never tells what things are, but how |
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| things should be. Because, you know, very good, |
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| you know. He says that poetry has the power to |
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| move people to be more virtuous and virtuous |
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| actions. But I don't think he was the only critic |
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| of the time. There was another critic called |
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| Pottenham. You know, he was also a critic and he |
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| wrote a book about the art of poetry and the art |
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| of writing poetry. He was much more philosophical. |
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| But it's good here we have the rise, we could say, |
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| of criticism. So look here, we are dealing with a |
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| very intellectual poet, a critic, a poet, a lover, |
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| a courtier, as we said. And you mentioned Spencer, |
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| like praising him, but I would mention also |
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| Shelley, you know, the romantic poet who said, you |
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| know, as he lived, you know, as he, you know, |
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| lived, loved and lived, as he you know, Phil, like |
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| in a battle, he was a sublimely spirit without a |
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| mind, you know, like he was praising him as he |
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| lived and loved, as he, Phil and Phor, he was |
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| sublimely spirit without a spot, you know, that |
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| was like him, like Chile, he was praising his |
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| nobility, you know, and he was like, very |
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| influential, very famous poet and intellectual of |
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| his time. So now, I don't think we should take |
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| this for something funny, when he writes a poem |
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| like this. Okay, do you want to add anything? |
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| Yeah, but you're taking us to the poem, and all of |
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| the students, wow, you're lucky. You like it? You |
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| like it? I don't know. Like, you should have |
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| started reading it aloud. How? How should it? And |
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| like, look here. Some poems, some lines are, yeah. |
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| Didn't nobody read this poem aloud at home? Huh? |
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| Don't say, bring out your bells. Don't worry. Do |
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| you think it should be like this? How? |
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| Is it anger or let's say a song? Because there |
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| should be anger like, bring out your guns, like |
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| this? Bring out your guns. Late morning shows be |
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| spread and then Allah is there. That is silly. |
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| Very silly, you know, come on, give me a break. |
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| What are you saying? You know, you're calling all |
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| these church bells to ring, you know, and then |
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| you're telling me one is dead? Very silly. Very, |
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| you know, irrational. But I think he, you know, by |
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| counting the reasons, by justifying that, you |
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| know, he's becoming more, you know, like sensible. |
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| and then say, Allah was dead, infected with plague |
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| of deep disdain, worth as note worth rejected, and |
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| faith first scored off gain from so ungrateful |
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| fancy, from such a female frenzy, from them that |
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| use men thus, good Lord, deliver us. Wow. Do you |
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| think this is like the voice of the poet? Is it |
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| the same voice or a different voice? |
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| You know, you are the chorus, and you know, can we |
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| do it? But let's see, listen, because this is how |
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| it should be. I'm going to, you know, like, to |
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| start. Ring out your bells. The morning shall be |
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| spread, for love is dead. Oh, love is dead. |
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| Infected with plague of deep despair. Worth as not |
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| worth rejected. And faith first called of gain. |
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| Weep? Weep, neighbors, weep. Don't you hear it |
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| said, Allah is there? His death, the tax folly, |
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| pickaxe folly, his whining, To cheer his shame, |
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| his will fall seemingly hollow, Holy his soul |
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| executor blame. |
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| Let dirt |
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| be sung and trantles rightly read, For love is |
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| dead. So wrong his tomb's ordained, My mistress' |
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| marble heart, which Epitaph contains, her eyes |
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| were once his dart. From such a dream |
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| and a fantasy, from name that fused him thus, to a |
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| 00:26:47,250 --> 00:26:51,690 |
| dart in her grasp. Alas, I lie. Rage has this |
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| 00:26:51,690 --> 00:26:55,150 |
| error bred. Love is not dead. Love is not dead, |
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| but sleeps in her unmatched mind, where she his |
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| counsel keeps till due dessert she find. |
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| You're crazy. You believe me? Thank you very much. |
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| Good. So I think it sounds like a prayer, a |
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| church, somebody like, yeah, it's like a what? |
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| It's like a ceremony. It's like a ceremony, isn't |
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| it? Yes, Jihani, you wanted to say something? |
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| Yeah, I just noticed because we read it aloud that |
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| because the first two are the same chorus but then |
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| the last stands and he differs, he changes. So it |
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| parallels his change of mind because we just said |
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| that at the beginning he thought a certain way and |
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| then at the end he sort of changed his mind. So do |
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| you think that this change of mind I think you |
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| know it's a deviation from the star because it |
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| seems like here we have a kind of you know |
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| 392 |
| 00:28:02,330 --> 00:28:05,810 |
| conflict because emotionally he's angry but |
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| 393 |
| 00:28:05,810 --> 00:28:09,510 |
| whatever like he said oh I'm sorry alas I you know |
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| 394 |
| 00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:12,710 |
| what made me commit such a mistake yeah so it is |
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| 395 |
| 00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:17,370 |
| like rage what is rage anger you know so I'm sorry |
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| 396 |
| 00:28:17,370 --> 00:28:23,210 |
| like it is rage and like I think we admire a man |
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| 397 |
| 00:28:23,210 --> 00:28:27,130 |
| who commits, who admits he committed a folly under |
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| 398 |
| 00:28:27,130 --> 00:28:33,950 |
| the pressure of some other passion. And then we |
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| 399 |
| 00:28:33,950 --> 00:28:37,190 |
| admire because he says, I'm sorry. So we admire |
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| 400 |
| 00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:40,830 |
| people who are not intransigent. You know what I |
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| 401 |
| 00:28:40,830 --> 00:28:43,370 |
| mean? Not stubborn. Because some people, when they |
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| 402 |
| 00:28:43,370 --> 00:28:45,390 |
| commit a mistake, they don't want to admit it. But |
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| 403 |
| 00:28:45,390 --> 00:28:52,100 |
| this man admits, yes. Everyone when he like have |
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| 404 |
| 00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:57,120 |
| an experience for the first time or he like under |
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| 405 |
| 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,640 |
| depression for the first time, he will like be too |
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| 406 |
| 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:08,470 |
| negative for the other side. Like what we call in |
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| 407 |
| 00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:14,970 |
| Arabic, time will |
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| 408 |
| 00:29:14,970 --> 00:29:20,450 |
| like change and make things a little painful for |
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| 409 |
| 00:29:20 |
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| 445 |
| 00:31:47,580 --> 00:31:51,660 |
| This poem is very provocative. Ring out your |
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| 446 |
| 00:31:51,660 --> 00:31:55,200 |
| bells, let morning shows be spread. So the poet |
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| 447 |
| 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,040 |
| seems to be angry and sad. And this is a |
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| 448 |
| 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:04,720 |
| declaration. But whom is he, but when he say, ring |
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| 449 |
| 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,220 |
| out your bells, let morning shows be spread, for |
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| 450 |
| 00:32:08,220 --> 00:32:12,970 |
| love is dead. So he is like, ordering, he is |
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| 451 |
| 00:32:12,970 --> 00:32:18,150 |
| appealing, you could say, to whom? Yeah, like, |
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| 452 |
| 00:32:18,290 --> 00:32:20,490 |
| ring out your bells, let morning shows be spread |
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| 453 |
| 00:32:20,490 --> 00:32:24,770 |
| to the church. So, like, the bells is a metonymy |
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| 454 |
| 00:32:24,770 --> 00:32:26,970 |
| of the church, if you want to say, you know, ring |
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| 455 |
| 00:32:26,970 --> 00:32:30,390 |
| out your bells, let morning shows be spread for |
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| 456 |
| 00:32:30,390 --> 00:32:33,230 |
| love. It's there. As we said, this is, you know, |
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| 457 |
| 00:32:34,030 --> 00:32:38,230 |
| an abrupt personification. It is unexpected. It |
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| 458 |
| 00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:45,000 |
| is, it sounds silly. But this silliness is |
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| 459 |
| 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:50,560 |
| undercut by those lovely images where he say love |
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| 460 |
| 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:57,600 |
| is dead, infected with all, with plague of deep |
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| 461 |
| 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,680 |
| disdain. Worth as not worth rejected and faith |
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| 462 |
| 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,640 |
| first called off game. Like what does he say |
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| 463 |
| 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:13,650 |
| exactly? Are we missing any line? All love is |
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| 464 |
| 00:33:13,650 --> 00:33:17,990 |
| dead. The assumption is not his personal love, but |
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| 465 |
| 00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:21,890 |
| all love. Why is he generalizing the thing? |
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| 466 |
| 00:33:25,290 --> 00:33:30,250 |
| Like to make people sympathize. Very good. To get |
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| 467 |
| 00:33:30,250 --> 00:33:34,130 |
| the compassion of people. But you know, I think, |
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| 468 |
| 00:33:34,250 --> 00:33:36,510 |
| you know, the word infected here, what is it |
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| 469 |
| 00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:41,830 |
| infected? Yeah, infected. with a plague you know |
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| 470 |
| 00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:46,330 |
| love was infected had good infection of what of |
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| 471 |
| 00:33:46,330 --> 00:33:51,910 |
| plague of deep disdain so I think here disdain is |
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| 472 |
| 00:33:51,910 --> 00:33:56,730 |
| very dangerous disdain is like what like you know |
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| 473 |
| 00:33:56,730 --> 00:34:02,210 |
| what's with this day it's gone you know yeah like |
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| 474 |
| 00:34:02,210 --> 00:34:07,270 |
| to despise to disparage somebody despise disparage |
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| 475 |
| 00:34:07,270 --> 00:34:08,950 |
| disdain all these |
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| 476 |
| 00:34:14,110 --> 00:34:20,230 |
| All love is dead, infected with a plague of this |
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| 477 |
| 00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:24,010 |
| day. What is a plague by the way? It's a very |
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| 478 |
| 00:34:24,010 --> 00:34:29,050 |
| dangerous, very contagious epidemic. It was there |
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| 479 |
| 00:34:29,050 --> 00:34:34,730 |
| in 16th century and 17th century. But a plague is |
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| 480 |
| 00:34:34,730 --> 00:34:38,920 |
| very fatal, very dangerous. And, you know, here, |
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| 481 |
| 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,800 |
| but what is the plague, in fact? What is the |
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| 482 |
| 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,340 |
| plague? Because there seems to be a metaphor here, |
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| 483 |
| 00:34:45,260 --> 00:34:50,800 |
| you know? No, it's not love. What is like, what is |
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| 484 |
| 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:56,120 |
| the thing which has the effect of a plague? No, |
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| 485 |
| 00:34:56,380 --> 00:35:01,180 |
| but here, like, say, all love is infected with the |
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| 486 |
| 00:35:01,180 --> 00:35:04,980 |
| plague of deed this day. So what is like a plague? |
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| 487 |
| 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:14,500 |
| Love is disdain. Love is disdain. What is |
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| 488 |
| 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:19,760 |
| disdain? To think that you are superior to the |
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| 489 |
| 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,960 |
| others. To think that the others are inferior to |
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| 490 |
| 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:28,300 |
| you. This is disdain. So I think disdain in itself |
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| 491 |
| 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:33,380 |
| is enough reason to justify his claim that love is |
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| 492 |
| 00:35:33,380 --> 00:35:38,760 |
| dead. And even like to justify his claim that all |
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| 493 |
| 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,200 |
| love is dead. Because if we are talking, you know, |
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| 494 |
| 00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:44,200 |
| a reason which is a plague-like, you know, because |
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| 495 |
| 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,960 |
| here we're dealing like, you know, it is infected. |
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| 496 |
| 00:35:48,740 --> 00:35:52,000 |
| And as you see here, infected, it has to do with |
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| 497 |
| 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,960 |
| the idea of all, you know, all love is dead. So if |
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| 498 |
| 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,680 |
| we're talking about plague, you know, it means |
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| 499 |
| 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:07,010 |
| like good. Yes? And maybe he said all of this |
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| 500 |
| 00:36:07,010 --> 00:36:14,970 |
| because he had a sad experience. He imagined all |
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| 501 |
| 00:36:14,970 --> 00:36:20,010 |
| of this. Yeah, because he's |
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| 502 |
| 00:36:20,010 --> 00:36:23,070 |
| paying too much, so he started to generalize. And |
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| 503 |
| 00:36:23,070 --> 00:36:26,390 |
| this happens when we are under pressure, when we |
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| 504 |
| 00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:32,350 |
| have experience like this. But words as known were |
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| 505 |
| 00:36:32,350 --> 00:36:36,260 |
| rejected. I think he started like to end this, to |
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| 506 |
| 00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:42,120 |
| give us why he's trying to justify it. Okay, it |
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| 507 |
| 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,960 |
| was scorn which killed it. And then he says, worth |
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| 508 |
| 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,460 |
| has not worth rejected. We have a simile here. |
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| 509 |
| 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:56,240 |
| What is the simile? What is worth? Worth is |
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| 510 |
| 00:36:56,240 --> 00:37:01,920 |
| nobility. Nobility, worth is nobility. So worth, |
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| 511 |
| 00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:07,300 |
| you know, as not worth. Note means a zero, you |
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| 512 |
| 00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:10,760 |
| know. Note like it has zero. You are noble to |
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| 513 |
| 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,020 |
| people, but they never consider this nobility. |
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| 514 |
| 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,040 |
| They never, you know, they just give cold |
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| 515 |
| 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,440 |
| shoulders. They don't care, you know. So you feel, |
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| 516 |
| 00:37:19,660 --> 00:37:23,580 |
| I think, you know, you know, if you're worth, if |
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| 517 |
| 00:37:23,580 --> 00:37:25,560 |
| you're noble to people and this noble is not |
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| 518 |
| 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,440 |
| appreciated, you feel, you know, mad, you feel |
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| 519 |
| 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,930 |
| that the other is ungrateful. worth as not worth |
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| 520 |
| 00:37:34,930 --> 00:37:41,750 |
| rejected and faith fair score doth gain. I like |
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| 521 |
| 00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:46,150 |
| this line very complicated very complicated you |
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| 522 |
| 00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:50,310 |
| know I know like some of you perhaps were |
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| 523 |
| 00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:55,290 |
| attracted by the alliteration here yeah and faith |
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| 524 |
| 00:37:55,290 --> 00:38:01,210 |
| fair score doth gain but fair score you know is |
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| 525 |
| 00:38:01,210 --> 00:38:06,480 |
| little bit problematic is there a score which is |
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| 526 |
| 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:11,040 |
| fair? You know, is it is there a score which is |
|
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| 527 |
| 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:16,920 |
| fair Yeah, it seems like contradictingly fair how |
|
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| 528 |
| 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:22,840 |
| come You know, it's like this is contradictory |
|
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| 529 |
| 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:28,580 |
| it's like delicious torment Huh, it is oxymoron. |
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| 530 |
| 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,540 |
| Thank you very much. This is what we call |
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| 531 |
| 00:38:30,540 --> 00:38:31,420 |
| oxymoron. I |
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| 532 |
| 00:38:34,590 --> 00:38:38,790 |
| So yeah, he wants to say it is fair score. So he |
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| 533 |
| 00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:42,550 |
| could be ironic. He could be sarcastic. He could |
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| 534 |
| 00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:47,130 |
| appreciate the score because without the score, he |
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| 535 |
| 00:38:47,130 --> 00:38:51,830 |
| would have never discovered how false and untrue |
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| 536 |
| 00:38:51,830 --> 00:38:56,630 |
| she was. But what I like in this poem is the |
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| 537 |
| 00:38:56,630 --> 00:39:01,670 |
| complexity of the syntax in the line. So if we are |
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| 538 |
| 00:39:01,670 --> 00:39:06,200 |
| talking about faith, and fair score, like who's |
|
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| 539 |
| 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:12,120 |
| gaining the other? How would you paraphrase this |
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| 540 |
| 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,580 |
| line? Can you paraphrase this line? How would you |
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| 541 |
| 00:39:15,580 --> 00:39:16,220 |
| paraphrase it? |
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| 542 |
| 00:39:20,340 --> 00:39:27,080 |
| How would you paraphrase it? Fair and faith, fair |
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| 543 |
| 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,980 |
| score does gain. |
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| 544 |
| 00:39:33,570 --> 00:39:36,430 |
| Yes, yes, please. |
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| 545 |
| 00:39:39,810 --> 00:39:43,130 |
| Excellent, yes, you gain faith, but you gain |
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| 546 |
| 00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:46,730 |
| score. So which is better? Which is stronger? |
|
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| 547 |
| 00:39:48,130 --> 00:39:54,350 |
| Which is stronger? A scorn is stronger. It's like |
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| 548 |
| 00:39:54,350 --> 00:39:58,310 |
| a battle in which you have fair scorn, which I |
|
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| 549 |
| 00:39:58,310 --> 00:40:02,850 |
| think it is personification here, and faith are |
|
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| 550 |
| 00:40:02,850 --> 00:40:07,050 |
| battling with each other, and then it is scorn the |
|
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| 551 |
| 00:40:07,050 --> 00:40:12,290 |
| winner. This line is ambiguous. Another |
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| 552 |
| 00:40:12,290 --> 00:40:16,650 |
| possibility is faith |
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| 553 |
| 00:40:18,690 --> 00:40:21,910 |
| You are, as you said, you are faithful, and when |
|
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| 554 |
| 00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:26,170 |
| you are faithful, this faith gains, you know, in |
|
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| 555 |
| 00:40:26,170 --> 00:40:30,170 |
| return, a score, you see? In either cases, score |
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| 556 |
| 00:40:30,170 --> 00:40:31,390 |
| is dominant. |
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| 557 |
| 00:40:34,210 --> 00:40:37,350 |
| And then this refrain, I don't know why the |
|
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| 558 |
| 00:40:37,350 --> 00:40:39,510 |
| refrain, this is what we call refrain. |
|
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| 559 |
| 00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:48,720 |
| Refrain, it's like, it's a chorus, Somebody should |
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| 560 |
| 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:53,340 |
| be repeating this, you know. And then we go like, |
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| 561 |
| 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,640 |
| we neighbors, we. It's not like a person that he |
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| 562 |
| 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,740 |
| started like to call neighbors. Like this is what |
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| 563 |
| 00:40:58,740 --> 00:41:02,080 |
| happens in funeral when the ordeal or the problem |
|
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| 564 |
| 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,660 |
| is too much, you see. So it seems like this is |
|
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| 565 |
| 00:41:05,660 --> 00:41:08,820 |
| very interesting poem and we have to reread it, |
|
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| 566 |
| 00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:13,760 |
| you know, again. with all the ideas, the |
|
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| 567 |
| 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,900 |
| wonderful, the background we have about this. And |
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| 568 |
| 00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:21,680 |
| I think next time we should go deeper, analyzing |
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| 569 |
| 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,320 |
| it, analyzing the figures of speech, the |
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| 570 |
| 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,220 |
| aesthetics. It is very complicated, but it is very |
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| 571 |
| 00:41:27,220 --> 00:41:30,920 |
| interesting. Thank you for being attentive, and |
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| 572 |
| 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,880 |
| see you next time, okay? Good. |
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