So sy's in ’n eikepaneel kamer met haar ma en sy't op ’n stoel se punt gaan sit, op haar hande vir 20 minute, terwyl die man met haar ma praat oor al die probleme wat Gillian by die skool het. Want sy't ander ontwrig; huiswerk altyd laat; ens.
So, this oak-paneled room, and she was there with her mother, and she was led and sat on this chair at the end, and she sat on her hands for 20 minutes, while this man talked to her mother about all the problems Gillian was having at school, because she was disturbing people, her homework was always late, and so on.