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-X680LVdHSg | Regarding today's amendment bill, the Communications and Multimedia Act 1998, these three ministers, who were on the Women and Children Affairs Select Committee at the time, opposed me for the same reasons. Today, despite now being ministers, they agree with the same provisions. | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0.06, "end": 4.22, "text": "Regarding today's amendment bill,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 4.239, "end": 7.34, "text": "the Communications and Multimedia Act 1998,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 7.632, "end": 14.051, "text": "these three ministers, who were on the Women and Children Affairs Select Co... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0.06, "end": 4.22, "text": "Tetapi dalam perkara rang undang-undang pindaan yang hari ini"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 4.239, "end": 7.34, "text": "iaitu Akta Komunikasi dan Multimedia 1998,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 7.632, "end": 14.051, "text": "tiga menteri ini, yang mana pada waktu itu berad... | 1 | Regarding today's amendment bill, the Communications and Multimedia Act 1998, these three ministers, who were on the Women and Children Affairs Select Committee at the time, opposed me for the same reasons. Today, despite now being ministers, they agree with the same provisions. | Tetapi dalam perkara rang undang-undang pindaan yang hari ini iaitu Akta Komunikasi dan Multimedia 1998, tiga menteri ini, yang mana pada waktu itu berada dalam Select Committee Women and Children Affairs mereka menentang saya atas alasan yang sama. Hari ini bila jadi menteri, tetapi setuju dengan peruntukan yang sama. | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Today, despite now being ministers, they agree with the same provisions. Assalamualaikum and welcome to Keluar Sekejap Episode 136. I'm KJ, and with me, Shahril Hamdan. Shahril, this is the penultimate episode of 2024. | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 15.621, "end": 21.901, "text": "Assalamualaikum and welcome to Keluar Sekejap Episode 136. I'm KJ, and with me,"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 21.901, "end": 23.131, "text": "Shahril Hamdan."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 23.367, "end": 28.967, "text": "Shahril, this is the penultimate episode of 2024.... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Hari ini bila jadi menteri, tetapi setuju dengan peruntukan yang sama."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 15.621, "end": 21.901, "text": "Assalamualaikum dan selamat datang ke episod 136 Keluar Sekejap, sama dengan saya KJ."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 21.901, "end": 23.131, "text... | 2 | Today, despite now being ministers, they agree with the same provisions. Assalamualaikum and welcome to Keluar Sekejap Episode 136. I'm KJ, and with me, Shahril Hamdan. Shahril, this is the penultimate episode of 2024. | Hari ini bila jadi menteri, tetapi setuju dengan peruntukan yang sama. Assalamualaikum dan selamat datang ke episod 136 Keluar Sekejap, sama dengan saya KJ. Saya Shahril Hamdan. Shahril, ini episod kedua terakhir untuk tahun 2024. | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Shahril, this is the penultimate episode of 2024. We have one more episode, our year-end special. We definitely have some interesting segments planned for the final episode. But this second-to-last episode also has a unique twist. As everyone knows, Keluar Sekejap is a podcast not just leading the | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 6.433, "end": 14.634, "text": "We definitely have some interesting segments planned for the final episode."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 15.073, "end": 21.073, "text": "But this second-to-last episode also has a unique twist."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 21.593, "end": 27.674, "text": "As everyone k... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Shahril, ini episod kedua terakhir untuk tahun 2024."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 1.194, "end": 6.234, "text": "Kita ada satu lagi episod yang merupakan year-end episod kita."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 6.433, "end": 14.634, "text": "Sudah pasti ada beberapa segmen yang men... | 2 | Shahril, this is the penultimate episode of 2024. We have one more episode, our year-end special. We definitely have some interesting segments planned for the final episode. But this second-to-last episode also has a unique twist. As everyone knows, Keluar Sekejap is a podcast not just leading the | Shahril, ini episod kedua terakhir untuk tahun 2024. Kita ada satu lagi episod yang merupakan year-end episod kita. Sudah pasti ada beberapa segmen yang menarik untuk episod yang terakhir. Tetapi episod yang kedua terakhir ini juga kita akan membawa satu kelainan. Dan seperti mana semua tahu, KS adalah podcast bukan ha... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | As everyone knows, Keluar Sekejap is a podcast not just leading the political debate and discussion on current affairs, but also a podcast always at the forefront of technological advancements. Sounds like a political speech. Right. You know you want to wrap up. A long way to go. At least, at least, we still have some ... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 4.259, "end": 9.74, "text": "but also a podcast always at the forefront of technological advancements."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 10.58, "end": 11.58, "text": "Sounds like a political speech."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 11.94, "end": 12.459, "text": "Right."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 12.459, "en... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Dan seperti mana semua tahu, KS adalah podcast bukan hanya yang menerajui"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 1.02, "end": 4.259, "text": "perbahasan dan perbincangan politik dan isu semasa,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 4.259, "end": 9.74, "text": "tetapi juga podcast yang sentiasa... | 2 | As everyone knows, Keluar Sekejap is a podcast not just leading the political debate and discussion on current affairs, but also a podcast always at the forefront of technological advancements. Sounds like a political speech. Right. You know you want to wrap up. A long way to go. At least, at least, we still have some ... | Dan seperti mana semua tahu, KS adalah podcast bukan hanya yang menerajui perbahasan dan perbincangan politik dan isu semasa, tetapi juga podcast yang sentiasa berada di hadapan keluk perubahan teknologi. Macam ucapan politik. Betul. Tahulah nak balik dah. Lama lagi, lama lagi. At least, at least, at least ada some tim... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Just a little bit. Not really that familiar with that world. Okay. Do you have a favorite game, Shahril? Back in the day, it was PlayStation. PlayStation. Same here, FIFA. FIFA. And also back when cyber cafes were still a thing. I played a lot of Counter-Strike and Red Alert 2. Red Alert 2. Command and Conquer. Command... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 3.18, "end": 4.18, "text": "Okay."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 4.9, "end": 9.9, "text": "Do you have a favorite game, Shahril?"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 11.78, "end": 13.659, "text": "Back in the day, it was PlayStation."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 13.659, "end": 14.659, "text": "PlayStation."}, ... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Macam itu, macam itu sajalah."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.5, "end": 3.18, "text": "Tidaklah akrab sangat dengan dunia tersebut."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 3.18, "end": 4.18, "text": "Okay."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 4.9, "end": 9.9, "text": "Mungkin ada game yang menjad... | 2 | Just a little bit. Not really that familiar with that world. Okay. Do you have a favorite game, Shahril? Back in the day, it was PlayStation. PlayStation. Same here, FIFA. FIFA. And also back when cyber cafes were still a thing. I played a lot of Counter-Strike and Red Alert 2. Red Alert 2. Command and Conquer. Command... | Macam itu, macam itu sajalah. Tidaklah akrab sangat dengan dunia tersebut. Okay. Mungkin ada game yang menjadi kegemaran, Shahril? Kalau dulu, PlayStation lah. PlayStation. The same, FIFA. FIFA. And also dulu, zaman Cyber Cafe masih relevant. Saya banyak main Counter-Strike dan juga Red Alert 2. Red Alert 2. Command an... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Okay. Well, interesting. The Gen Y days. Yeah, yeah. Now, for millennials, for Gen Z like my kids, they're more into online games, platform games, and so on. Minecraft, some still play EA Sports. Now FIFA is called EAFC. Some play combat sports games, like UFC. But there's one gaming platform I'm really interested in. | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 1.5, "end": 2.5, "text": "The Gen Y days."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 2.5, "end": 6.901, "text": "Yeah, yeah. Now, for millennials, for Gen Z like my kids,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 6.901, "end": 14.901, "text": "they're more into online games, platform games, and so on."}, {"speaker": 1, "star... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Okay."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.5, "end": 1.5, "text": "Well, interesting."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 1.5, "end": 2.5, "text": "Gen Y days."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 2.5, "end": 6.901, "text": "Ya, ya. Sekarang ini untuk millennials, untuk Gen Z macam anak-anak saya,... | 2 | Okay. Well, interesting. The Gen Y days. Yeah, yeah. Now, for millennials, for Gen Z like my kids, they're more into online games, platform games, and so on. Minecraft, some still play EA Sports. Now FIFA is called EAFC. Some play combat sports games, like UFC. But there's one gaming platform I'm really interested in. | Okay. Well, interesting. Gen Y days. Ya, ya. Sekarang ini untuk millennials, untuk Gen Z macam anak-anak saya, mereka banyak cari game yang boleh dimainkan online, platform games dan sebagainya. Minecraft, ada yang juga masih lagi main EA Sports. Sekarang ini FIFA dah panggil EAFC. Ada yang main Combat Sports, macam UF... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | But there's one gaming platform I'm really interested in. It's called Roblox. R-O-B-L-O-X. You can log into Roblox with a username, etc. And then you get access to a ton of games. For example, my kids play it, especially my youngest son, Raif. But I also enjoy a game in Roblox called Broken Bones. | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 2.5, "end": 4.5, "text": "R-O-B-L-O-X."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 4.5, "end": 9.5, "text": "You can log into Roblox with a username, etc."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 9.5, "end": 13.5, "text": "And then you get access to a ton of games."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 13.5, "end": 18.5, "text": "For e... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Tetapi ada satu platform gaming yang saya sangat tertarik."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 2.5, "text": "And it's called Roblox."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 2.5, "end": 4.5, "text": "R-O-B-L-O-X."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 4.5, "end": 9.5, "text": "So, boleh masuk ... | 2 | But there's one gaming platform I'm really interested in. It's called Roblox. R-O-B-L-O-X. You can log into Roblox with a username, etc. And then you get access to a ton of games. For example, my kids play it, especially my youngest son, Raif. But I also enjoy a game in Roblox called Broken Bones. | Tetapi ada satu platform gaming yang saya sangat tertarik. And it's called Roblox. R-O-B-L-O-X. So, boleh masuk Roblox ini dengan username dan sebagainya. And then, boleh dapat akses kepada banyak game di situ. So, macam contoh, my kids play it, especially my youngest son, Raif. Tetapi saya juga ada suka satu game dala... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | But I also enjoy a game in Roblox called Broken Bones. In Broken Bones, your avatar stands on top of a mountain and jumps off. From the top of the mountain. And the objective of the game is to break as many bones as possible. It then analyzes how many bones you've broken. But you don't actually have to do anything phys... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 8.5, "end": 10.5, "text": "From the top of the mountain."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 10.5, "end": 15.5, "text": "And the objective of the game is to break as many bones as possible."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 15.5, "end": 21.5, "text": "It then analyzes how many bones you've broken."}, {"speaker... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Tetapi saya juga ada suka satu game dalam Roblox yang namanya Broken Bones."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 8.5, "text": "Broken Bones ini, your avatar berdiri di atas puncak gunung dan dia terjun"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 8.5, "end": 10.5, "text": "daripada punc... | 2 | But I also enjoy a game in Roblox called Broken Bones. In Broken Bones, your avatar stands on top of a mountain and jumps off. From the top of the mountain. And the objective of the game is to break as many bones as possible. It then analyzes how many bones you've broken. But you don't actually have to do anything phys... | Tetapi saya juga ada suka satu game dalam Roblox yang namanya Broken Bones. Broken Bones ini, your avatar berdiri di atas puncak gunung dan dia terjun daripada puncak gunung itu. And the objective of the game is to break as many bones as possible. Dan ia akan buat analisa berapa banyak tulang telah pun patah. Tapi dala... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | You just launch yourself. Then you can control your flight, your trajectory, which direction you fall. Do you want to land on the grass? On the rocks? Right. The goal is to rack up the highest number of broken bones. I think this game is excellent therapy for politicians. Self-loathing. | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 3.5, "end": 9.5, "text": "which direction you fall. Do you want to land on the grass? On the rocks?"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 9.5, "end": 15.5, "text": "Right. The goal is to rack up the highest number of broken bones."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 15.5, "end": 21.5, "text": "I think this game is... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Kita lontarkan diri sahaja."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 3.5, "text": "So, then you can control your flight, you can control your trajectory,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 3.5, "end": 9.5, "text": "ke arah mana nak jatuh. Nak jatuh atas rumput ke, nak jatuh atas b... | 2 | You just launch yourself. Then you can control your flight, your trajectory, which direction you fall. Do you want to land on the grass? On the rocks? Right. The goal is to rack up the highest number of broken bones. I think this game is excellent therapy for politicians. Self-loathing. | Kita lontarkan diri sahaja. So, then you can control your flight, you can control your trajectory, ke arah mana nak jatuh. Nak jatuh atas rumput ke, nak jatuh atas batu ke. Baik. Dan matlamatnya untuk tambah jumlah tulang yang dipatahkan. Saya rasa game ini memberi terapi yang sangat bagus untuk orang politik. Self-loa... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Self-loathing. Anyway, the reason we bring up Roblox is because we were recently contacted by a group of talented, handsome young men. Their group, or company, is called D'blox. D apostrophe B-L-O-X. They must all be Malay, right? | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 10.5, "end": 18.5, "text": "by a group of talented, handsome young men."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 18.5, "end": 23.5, "text": "Their group, or company, is called D'blox."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 23.5, "end": 25.5, "text": "D apostrophe B-L-O-X."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 25.5, "end": 27.5, "t... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Self-loathing."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 3.5, "end": 10.5, "text": "But anyway, the reason kita bangkitkan Roblox ini adalah kerana baru-baru ini"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 10.5, "end": 18.5, "text": "kita telah dihubungi oleh sekumpulan jejaka muda yang tampan, yang pa... | 2 | Self-loathing. Anyway, the reason we bring up Roblox is because we were recently contacted by a group of talented, handsome young men. Their group, or company, is called D'blox. D apostrophe B-L-O-X. They must all be Malay, right? | Self-loathing. But anyway, the reason kita bangkitkan Roblox ini adalah kerana baru-baru ini kita telah dihubungi oleh sekumpulan jejaka muda yang tampan, yang pandai. Kumpulan ini ataupun syarikat mereka dikenali dengan nama D'blox. D apostrophe B-L-O-X. Semua mesti Melayu kan? | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | They must all be Malay, right? Because any restaurant or company with that "D'," it's got to be Malay. Right, right. D-E or D apostrophe. Right, right. Maybe next year we'll have D'Keluar Sekejap. D'Keluar Sekejap. Anyway, D'blox. D'blox are involved in game development on the Roblox platform. The team comprises Daniel... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 5.5, "end": 6.5, "text": "Right, right."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 6.5, "end": 8.5, "text": "D-E or D apostrophe."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 8.5, "end": 9.5, "text": "Right, right."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 9.5, "end": 12.5, "text": "Maybe next year we'll have D'Keluar Sekejap."}, {"speaker": ... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Semua mesti Melayu kan?"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.5, "end": 5.5, "text": "Sebab samada kedai makan, syarikat Roblox ke, yang ada D' ini, mesti Melayu."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 5.5, "end": 6.5, "text": "Betul, betul."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 6.5, "end": 8.5, "text"... | 2 | They must all be Malay, right? Because any restaurant or company with that "D'," it's got to be Malay. Right, right. D-E or D apostrophe. Right, right. Maybe next year we'll have D'Keluar Sekejap. D'Keluar Sekejap. Anyway, D'blox. D'blox are involved in game development on the Roblox platform. The team comprises Daniel... | Semua mesti Melayu kan? Sebab samada kedai makan, syarikat Roblox ke, yang ada D' ini, mesti Melayu. Betul, betul. D-E ataupun D apostrophe. Betul, betul. Mungkin tahun depan kita d'kluar sekejap. D'kluar sekejap. Anyway, D'blox. Dan D'blox ini adalah mereka yang terlibat dalam pembangunan game. Dalam platform Roblox y... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | on the Roblox platform. The team comprises Daniel Iman, Ahmad Faris, Faizul Zuhair, Khairullah, and Luqman. And they've given us some really, really amazing suggestions at Keluar Sekejap. Which is... Shahril? Which is, for this penultimate episode, this episode, we will enter the world of Roblox. And we will be the ava... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 3.5, "end": 8.5, "text": "And they've given us some really, really amazing suggestions"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 8.5, "end": 10.5, "text": "at Keluar Sekejap."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 10.5, "end": 12.5, "text": "Which is... Shahril?"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 12.5, "end": 15.5, "text": "Whic... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Dalam platform Roblox yang dianggotai oleh saudara Daniel Iman, Ahmad Faris,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 3.5, "text": "Faizul Zuhair, Khairullah dan juga Luqman."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 3.5, "end": 8.5, "text": "Dan mereka telah memberi cadangan yang sangat... | 2 | on the Roblox platform. The team comprises Daniel Iman, Ahmad Faris, Faizul Zuhair, Khairullah, and Luqman. And they've given us some really, really amazing suggestions at Keluar Sekejap. Which is... Shahril? Which is, for this penultimate episode, this episode, we will enter the world of Roblox. And we will be the ava... | Dalam platform Roblox yang dianggotai oleh saudara Daniel Iman, Ahmad Faris, Faizul Zuhair, Khairullah dan juga Luqman. Dan mereka telah memberi cadangan yang sangat-sangat luar biasa kepada kami di Keluar Sekejap. Which is... Shahril? Which is that episode kedua terakhir ini. This episode. Iaitu episode yang ini, kita... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | That's right. Yes. Let's go. Let's go in. Wow. Yes, this is the virtual world we have entered, KJ. Hello. Hello. Shahril, are you satisfied with the avatar? Yes. It's just clear that my avatar is really funny with feet that don't touch the floor. Oh, that wasn't my idea. I'm not sure because I got to the studio late. I... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 1.5, "end": 2.78, "text": "Let's go. Let's go in."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 3.7, "end": 4.3, "text": "Wow."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 4.82, "end": 7.82, "text": "Yes, this is the virtual world we have entered, KJ."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 8.14, "end": 9.14, "text": "Hello. Hello."}, {"speake... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Betul."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 1.5, "text": "Ya."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 1.5, "end": 2.78, "text": "Let's go. Let's go in."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 3.7, "end": 4.3, "text": "Wow."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 4.82, "end": 7.82, "text": "Ya, inilah dunia ... | 2 | That's right. Yes. Let's go. Let's go in. Wow. Yes, this is the virtual world we have entered, KJ. Hello. Hello. Shahril, are you satisfied with the avatar? Yes. It's just clear that my avatar is really funny with feet that don't touch the floor. Oh, that wasn't my idea. I'm not sure because I got to the studio late. I... | Betul. Ya. Let's go. Let's go in. Wow. Ya, inilah dunia virtual yang kita dah masuk, KJ. Hello. Hello. Shahril puas hati dengan avatar? Boleh. Cuma jelas bahawa avatar saya memang dijenakakan dengan kaki yang tak mencecah lantai. Oh, itu bukan idea saya? Saya kurang pasti sebab saya sampai studio lewat. Body okey apa? | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Is the body okay? My body is more accurate to my real self. KJ's body is clearly also given a questionable treatment. Doubtful? Yes, doubtful. Okay. This is us, KS, both of us in the world of Roblox. And thanks again to D'blox for bringing KS into the realm of Roblox. Today, Shahril, we want to discuss many things. | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 3.58, "end": 9.939, "text": "KJ's body is clearly also given a questionable treatment."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 9.939, "end": 10.54, "text": "Doubtful?"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 10.54, "end": 11.259, "text": "Yes, doubtful."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 12.299, "end": 18.22, "text": "Okay. This... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Body okey apa?"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.86, "end": 3.58, "text": "Body saya lebih tepat dengan diri saya yang sebenar."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 3.58, "end": 9.939, "text": "Body KJ memang jelas juga diberikan satu pen-sasaan yang diragukan.#"}, {"speaker": 1, "star... | 2 | Is the body okay? My body is more accurate to my real self. KJ's body is clearly also given a questionable treatment. Doubtful? Yes, doubtful. Okay. This is us, KS, both of us in the world of Roblox. And thanks again to D'blox for bringing KS into the realm of Roblox. Today, Shahril, we want to discuss many things. | Body okey apa? Body saya lebih tepat dengan diri saya yang sebenar. Body KJ memang jelas juga diberikan satu pen-sasaan yang diragukan.# Diragui? Ya, diragui. Okey. Inilah kami KS, kami berdua di dalam alam Roblox. Dan sekali lagi terima kasih kepada D'blox kerana membawa KS ke dalam alam Roblox. Hari ini Shahril, kita... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Today, Shahril, we want to discuss many things. We'll start with current issues first. We are recording this episode on the 10th, Tuesday. And today, this morning, there is an answer that has already been given by Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahim, the Prime Minister, regarding the addendum issue. Addendum or additional order re... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 3.581, "end": 7.781, "text": "We are recording this episode on the 10th, Tuesday."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 8.261, "end": 15.781, "text": "And today, this morning, there is an answer that has already been given by"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 15.781, "end": 20.26, "text": "Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahi... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Hari ini Shahril, kita nak bincang banyak perkara."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 2.981, "text": "Kita mula dengan isu-isu semasa dahulu."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 3.581, "end": 7.781, "text": "Kita rakam episod ini pada 10 Hari Bulan, Hari Selasa."}, {"speaker"... | 2 | Today, Shahril, we want to discuss many things. We'll start with current issues first. We are recording this episode on the 10th, Tuesday. And today, this morning, there is an answer that has already been given by Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahim, the Prime Minister, regarding the addendum issue. Addendum or additional order re... | Hari ini Shahril, kita nak bincang banyak perkara. Kita mula dengan isu-isu semasa dahulu. Kita rakam episod ini pada 10 Hari Bulan, Hari Selasa. Dan pada hari ini, pagi tadi, ada satu jawapan yang telahpun diberi oleh Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim, Perdana Menteri, berkenaan dengan isu addendum. Addendum ataupun titah tamb... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Addendum or additional order regarding the pardon of Dato Seri Najib Tun Razak. But before that, yesterday, on the 9th, a statement was issued by the Attorney General's Office, or the Attorney General's Chambers. And in that statement, he reminded all parties, including Keluar Sekejap, I think, perhaps, not to discuss ... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 4.019, "end": 8.58, "text": "a statement was issued by the Attorney General's Office,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 8.58, "end": 10.46, "text": "or the Attorney General's Chambers."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 11.019, "end": 15.659, "text": "And in that statement, he reminded all parties,"}, {"speak... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Addendum ataupun titah tambahan berkenaan dengan pengampunan Datuk Seri Muhammad Najib Tun Razak."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.739, "end": 4.019, "text": "Tetapi sebelum itu, semalam, pada 9 Hari Bulan,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 4.019, "end": 8.58, "text": "satu kenyata... | 2 | Addendum or additional order regarding the pardon of Dato Seri Najib Tun Razak. But before that, yesterday, on the 9th, a statement was issued by the Attorney General's Office, or the Attorney General's Chambers. And in that statement, he reminded all parties, including Keluar Sekejap, I think, perhaps, not to discuss ... | Addendum ataupun titah tambahan berkenaan dengan pengampunan Datuk Seri Muhammad Najib Tun Razak. Tetapi sebelum itu, semalam, pada 9 Hari Bulan, satu kenyataan telahpun dikeluarkan oleh Jabatan Peguam Negara ataupun Attendant General Chambers. Dan dalam kenyataan itu telah mengingatkan kepada semua pihak, termasuklah ... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | not to discuss or debate the matter of the addendum because it is a matter that is now before the court. And as usual, the warning was issued not to discuss issues that could be linked to what is known as something that is sub judice, or matters that are still being heard by the court. But, I don't think it's wrong for... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 7.101, "end": 12.58, "text": "And as usual, the warning was issued not to discuss issues"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 12.58, "end": 17.82, "text": "that could be linked to what is known as something that is sub judice,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 18.18, "end": 23.26, "text": "or matters that are s... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "untuk tidak membincangkan, tidak membahaskan soal addendum"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.9, "end": 6.661, "text": "kerana ia menjadi satu perkara yang sekarang ini dihadapan mahkamah."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 7.101, "end": 12.58, "text": "Dan seperti biasa, peringatan i... | 2 | not to discuss or debate the matter of the addendum because it is a matter that is now before the court. And as usual, the warning was issued not to discuss issues that could be linked to what is known as something that is sub judice, or matters that are still being heard by the court. But, I don't think it's wrong for... | untuk tidak membincangkan, tidak membahaskan soal addendum kerana ia menjadi satu perkara yang sekarang ini dihadapan mahkamah. Dan seperti biasa, peringatan itu dikeluarkan untuk tidak membincangkan isu yang boleh dikaitkan dengan apa yang dikenali sebagai sesuatu yang subjudis ataupun hal yang masih dibicarakan oleh ... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | But, I don't think it's wrong for us to comment a little on PMX's answer. We will not comment on whether the addendum exists or not. I think that is what the court wants to determine. But, we can discuss and even comment to some extent regarding the answer given by PMX. So, in that answer, at the Prime Minister's quest... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 2.9, "end": 6.86, "text": "We will not comment on whether the addendum exists or not."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 6.86, "end": 12.34, "text": "I think that is what the court wants to determine."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 12.62, "end": 17.181, "text": "But, we can discuss and even comment to some... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Tetapi, saya rasa tidak salah untuk kita mengulas sedikit sebanyak"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 2.9, "text": "berkenaan dengan jawapan PMX."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 2.9, "end": 6.86, "text": "Kita tidak akan mengulas sama ada addendum itu wujud ataupun tidak.... | 2 | But, I don't think it's wrong for us to comment a little on PMX's answer. We will not comment on whether the addendum exists or not. I think that is what the court wants to determine. But, we can discuss and even comment to some extent regarding the answer given by PMX. So, in that answer, at the Prime Minister's quest... | Tetapi, saya rasa tidak salah untuk kita mengulas sedikit sebanyak berkenaan dengan jawapan PMX. Kita tidak akan mengulas sama ada addendum itu wujud ataupun tidak. Saya rasa itulah perkara yang nak ditentukan oleh mahkamah. Tetapi, kita boleh bincang dan juga mengulas sedikit sebanyak berkenaan dengan jawapan yang dib... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | So, in that answer, at the Prime Minister's question and answer session this morning, the Prime Minister used the statement of the AGC, or the Attorney General, and said that, 'I cannot answer whether or not this addendum exists because this matter is before the court.' He only said that the issue of Dato Seri Najib's ... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 6.581, "end": 9.821, "text": "and said that, 'I cannot answer whether or not this addendum exists"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 10.14, "end": 13.101, "text": "because this matter is before the court.'"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 13.101, "end": 20.98, "text": "He only said that the issue of Dato Ser... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "So, dalam jawapan itu, pada sesi soal jawab Perdana Menteri pagi tadi,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.78, "end": 6.581, "text": "Perdana Menteri telah menggunakan kenyataan AGC ataupun Peguam Negara"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 6.581, "end": 9.821, "text": "dan mengatakan ba... | 2 | So, in that answer, at the Prime Minister's question and answer session this morning, the Prime Minister used the statement of the AGC, or the Attorney General, and said that, 'I cannot answer whether or not this addendum exists because this matter is before the court.' He only said that the issue of Dato Seri Najib's ... | So, dalam jawapan itu, pada sesi soal jawab Perdana Menteri pagi tadi, Perdana Menteri telah menggunakan kenyataan AGC ataupun Peguam Negara dan mengatakan bahawa, 'saya tak boleh jawab sama ada wujud atau tidak addendum ini sebab perkara ini dihadapan mahkamah.' Cuma, dia kata bahawa isu pengampunan Datuk Seri Najib t... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | His Majesty the Yang Dipertuan Agong. And he has repeated this two or three times in the answer, stating that 'I brought it.' 'Actually, it's not on the agenda, I brought it up.' Why it is appropriate to consider a pardon for Dato Seri Najib. I see there, Shahril, that there is an effort from the PM to try to soften UM... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 6.58, "end": 8.62, "text": "stating that 'I brought it.'"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 8.62, "end": 11.02, "text": "'Actually, it's not on the agenda, I brought it up.'"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 11.02, "end": 15.419, "text": "Why it is appropriate to consider a pardon for Dato Seri Najib."}, {"sp... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Seri Paduka Baginda Yang Dipertuan Agong."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 1.101, "end": 6.58, "text": "Dan beliau telah mengulangi perkara ini 2-3 kali dalam jawapan,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 6.58, "end": 8.62, "text": "menyatakan bahawa 'saya yang bawa'."}, {"speaker": 1, ... | 2 | His Majesty the Yang Dipertuan Agong. And he has repeated this two or three times in the answer, stating that 'I brought it.' 'Actually, it's not on the agenda, I brought it up.' Why it is appropriate to consider a pardon for Dato Seri Najib. I see there, Shahril, that there is an effort from the PM to try to soften UM... | Seri Paduka Baginda Yang Dipertuan Agong. Dan beliau telah mengulangi perkara ini 2-3 kali dalam jawapan, menyatakan bahawa 'saya yang bawa'. 'Sebenarnya tidak ada dalam agenda, saya yang bawa.' Sebab wajar dipertimbangkan pengampunan untuk Datuk Seri Najib. Saya melihat di situ, Shahril, ada usaha daripada PM untuk cu... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Because recently in a Barisan Nasional convention, unanimously, all Barisan Nasional parties, UMNO, MCA, and MIC, have already stated that they want to see justice brought to Dato Seri Najib in the form of the implementation of the addendum, which is arrest at home. And pressure was building on PMX. | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 7.66, "end": 14.699, "text": "that they want to see justice brought to Dato Seri Najib"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 14.699, "end": 20.74, "text": "in the form of the implementation of the addendum, which is arrest at home."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 21.22, "end": 24.179, "text": "And pressure was... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Sebab baru-baru ini dalam satu konvensyen Barisan Nasional,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.979, "end": 6.979, "text": "sebulat suara, semua parti Barisan Nasional UMNO, MCA, MIC telah pun menyatakan"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 7.66, "end": 14.699, "text": "bahawa mereka ber... | 2 | Because recently in a Barisan Nasional convention, unanimously, all Barisan Nasional parties, UMNO, MCA, and MIC, have already stated that they want to see justice brought to Dato Seri Najib in the form of the implementation of the addendum, which is arrest at home. And pressure was building on PMX. | Sebab baru-baru ini dalam satu konvensyen Barisan Nasional, sebulat suara, semua parti Barisan Nasional UMNO, MCA, MIC telah pun menyatakan bahawa mereka berpendirian nak melihat satu keadilan dibawa kepada Datuk Seri Najib dalam bentuk pelaksanaan addendum tersebut, iaitu penahanan di kediaman ataupun di rumah. Dan pr... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | And pressure was building on PMX. And I see that PMX's claim that he brought Najib's issue to the Pardons Board, that he was the first to bring up the matter, is an effort to try to soften UMNO's heart. But at the same time, as we all know, PMX is a very flexible person, flexible in his answers. He placates UMNO in one... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 8.621, "end": 15.22, "text": "that he was the first to bring up the matter, is an effort to try to soften UMNO's heart."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 15.22, "end": 18.461, "text": "But at the same time, as we all know,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 18.461, "end": 22.341, "text": "PMX is a very flexib... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Dan pressure was building on PMX."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.86, "end": 8.621, "text": "Dan saya nampak bahawa PMX claim yang dia yang bawa isu Najib ke Lembaga Pengampunan,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 8.621, "end": 15.22, "text": "dia yang pertama yang bawa perkara itu... | 2 | And pressure was building on PMX. And I see that PMX's claim that he brought Najib's issue to the Pardons Board, that he was the first to bring up the matter, is an effort to try to soften UMNO's heart. But at the same time, as we all know, PMX is a very flexible person, flexible in his answers. He placates UMNO in one... | Dan pressure was building on PMX. Dan saya nampak bahawa PMX claim yang dia yang bawa isu Najib ke Lembaga Pengampunan, dia yang pertama yang bawa perkara itu, adalah usaha untuk cuba melembutkan hati UMNO. Tetapi pada masa yang sama, seperti mana yang kita tahu, PMX ini seorang yang sangat anjal, fleksibel dalam jawap... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | he placates his own supporters and says that, 'Oh, this is nothing I can do, this is up to the YDPA and the court.' What is Shahril's view? Yes, if KJ's point is that PMX's answer is trying to soften the hearts of Dato Seri Najib's supporters, especially those within UMNO and the Barisan Nasional leadership, what is th... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 6.74, "end": 7.74, "text": "What is Shahril's view?"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 8.34, "end": 15.74, "text": "Yes, if KJ's point is that PMX's answer is trying to soften the hearts of Dato Seri Najib's supporters,"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 15.74, "end": 19.541, "text": "especially those within U... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "dia placate penyokong dia sendiri dan mengatakan bahawa,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 6.02, "text": "oh ini tak ada apa-apa yang saya boleh buat, ini terpulang kepada YDPA dan mahkamah."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 6.74, "end": 7.74, "text": "Apa pandangan Shahri... | 2 | he placates his own supporters and says that, 'Oh, this is nothing I can do, this is up to the YDPA and the court.' What is Shahril's view? Yes, if KJ's point is that PMX's answer is trying to soften the hearts of Dato Seri Najib's supporters, especially those within UMNO and the Barisan Nasional leadership, what is th... | dia placate penyokong dia sendiri dan mengatakan bahawa, oh ini tak ada apa-apa yang saya boleh buat, ini terpulang kepada YDPA dan mahkamah. Apa pandangan Shahril? Ya, kalau point KJ adalah bahawa jawapan PMX cuba melembutkan hati penyokong Datuk Seri Najib, khususnya yang ada dalam UMNO dan dalam kepimpinan Barisan N... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | what is the political cost he has to bear? when he openly positions himself as the one bringing this agenda to be debated by the pardon board itself. This contradicts the previous narrative that the government isn't accountable for this agenda | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 7.34, "end": 12.02, "text": "to be debated by the pardon board itself."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 12.02, "end": 17.1, "text": "This contradicts the previous narrative"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 17.1, "end": 25.08, "text": "that the government isn't accountable for this agenda"}, {"speaker": 0, ... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "apa kos yang dia terpaksa tanggung"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.539, "end": 7.34, "text": "apabila secara terbuka meletakkan dirinya sebagai individu yang membawa agenda"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 7.34, "end": 12.02, "text": "untuk dibahaskan dalam lembaga pengampunan it... | 1 | what is the political cost he has to bear? when he openly positions himself as the one bringing this agenda to be debated by the pardon board itself. This contradicts the previous narrative that the government isn't accountable for this agenda | apa kos yang dia terpaksa tanggung apabila secara terbuka meletakkan dirinya sebagai individu yang membawa agenda untuk dibahaskan dalam lembaga pengampunan itu sendiri. Sebab ini bercanggah dengan semangat yang mungkin sebelum ini cuba juga dibawa iaitu ini bukan agenda yang boleh dipertanggungjawabkan | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | that the government isn't accountable for this agenda because everything is the YDPA's decision. So, the original line, "all these are YDPA's decisions," has been slightly altered, because now, yes, it is the YDPA's decision, but it wasn't the YDPA who initiated it. The one who brought it up was the Prime Minister, if ... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 6.06, "end": 10.64, "text": "So, the original line, \"all these are YDPA's decisions,\""}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 10.64, "end": 14.739, "text": "has been slightly altered, because now,"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 14.739, "end": 18.219, "text": "yes, it is the YDPA's decision, but it wasn't the ... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "cuba juga dibawa iaitu ini bukan agenda yang boleh dipertanggungjawabkan"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.5, "end": 6.06, "text": "atas bahu kerajaan sebab semuanya adalah keputusan YDPA."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 6.06, "end": 10.64, "text": "Jadi di sini ayat asal itu, 'se... | 1 | that the government isn't accountable for this agenda because everything is the YDPA's decision. So, the original line, "all these are YDPA's decisions," has been slightly altered, because now, yes, it is the YDPA's decision, but it wasn't the YDPA who initiated it. The one who brought it up was the Prime Minister, if ... | cuba juga dibawa iaitu ini bukan agenda yang boleh dipertanggungjawabkan atas bahu kerajaan sebab semuanya adalah keputusan YDPA. Jadi di sini ayat asal itu, 'semua ini adalah keputusan YDPA' dah boleh dikatakan dah edit sikitlah sebab sekarang ini, ya keputusan YDPA, tapi yang bawa itu bukan YDPA. Yang dibawa itu adal... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | So, it may be too early to see the political ramifications and the political cost PMX will bear among his own supporters. If there is... or supporters of PMX and Pakatan Harapan (PH), there is no cost that is too big for him to bear, but I think there is. And on credibility, the question of opposing the question of for... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 6.319, "end": 12.72, "text": "If there is... or supporters of PMX and Pakatan Harapan (PH), there is no cost that is too big"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 12.819, "end": 15.299, "text": "for him to bear, but I think there is."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 15.299, "end": 25.46, "text": "And on credibi... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "So mungkin terlalu awal dalam saat kita rekod ini untuk melihat apakah kesan politik"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.5, "end": 6.319, "text": "dan kos politik yang akan ditanggung oleh PMX di kalangan penyokong-penyokongnya sendiri."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 6.319, "end": ... | 1 | So, it may be too early to see the political ramifications and the political cost PMX will bear among his own supporters. If there is... or supporters of PMX and Pakatan Harapan (PH), there is no cost that is too big for him to bear, but I think there is. And on credibility, the question of opposing the question of for... | So mungkin terlalu awal dalam saat kita rekod ini untuk melihat apakah kesan politik dan kos politik yang akan ditanggung oleh PMX di kalangan penyokong-penyokongnya sendiri. Kalau adalah... ataupun penyokong PMX dan PH ini tidak ada kos yang terlalu besar untuk ditanggung oleh beliau, tapi saya rasa ada. Dan kredibili... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | can no longer be discussed because you said you are the one who brought this matter up as an agenda. I see the PM trying to have his cake and eat it too. That's a Western idiom. Trying to have it both ways. Meaning, "I brought it up, but it's ultimately up to the YDPA." That was PMX's strategy this morning. And this is... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 5.38, "end": 10.179, "text": "That's a Western idiom."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 10.179, "end": 11.78, "text": "Trying to have it both ways."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 11.78, "end": 16.579, "text": "Meaning, \"I brought it up, but it's ultimately up to the YDPA.\""}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 16.... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "dah tak boleh cakaplah, sebab anda kata anda yang bawa benda ini as an agenda."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 5.38, "text": "Saya nampak PM cuba mendapatkan kek dan makan kek itu."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 5.38, "end": 10.179, "text": "itu menggunakan istilah or... | 2 | can no longer be discussed because you said you are the one who brought this matter up as an agenda. I see the PM trying to have his cake and eat it too. That's a Western idiom. Trying to have it both ways. Meaning, "I brought it up, but it's ultimately up to the YDPA." That was PMX's strategy this morning. And this is... | dah tak boleh cakaplah, sebab anda kata anda yang bawa benda ini as an agenda. Saya nampak PM cuba mendapatkan kek dan makan kek itu. itu menggunakan istilah orang putih lah. Cuba mendapatkan kek dan makan. Dalam maksudnya, saya yang bawa tetapi terpulang kepada YDPA lah. Itulah strategi PMX pagi tadi. Dan hal ini, apa... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | is something we at KS have raised since the beginning of this pardon and sentence reduction saga. It seems PMX and the government want to please everyone and come out on top no matter what. They want to win all around. I don't think that strategy is unique to PMX. All politicians have that tendency. But in such a publi... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 7.201, "end": 12.581, "text": "and come out on top no matter what."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 12.581, "end": 15.041, "text": "They want to win all around."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 15.041, "end": 20.28, "text": "I don't think that strategy is unique to PMX."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 20.28, "e... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "memang benda yang daripada awal episod ataupun awal isu pengampunan"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.5, "end": 7.1, "text": "dan juga diskaun tahanan ini, adalah satu perkara yang telahpun kita di KS bangkitkan."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 7.201, "end": 12.581, "text": "Iaitu... | 1 | is something we at KS have raised since the beginning of this pardon and sentence reduction saga. It seems PMX and the government want to please everyone and come out on top no matter what. They want to win all around. I don't think that strategy is unique to PMX. All politicians have that tendency. But in such a publi... | memang benda yang daripada awal episod ataupun awal isu pengampunan dan juga diskaun tahanan ini, adalah satu perkara yang telahpun kita di KS bangkitkan. Iaitu nampak PMX dan pentadbiran kerajaan mahu kedua-dua belah dan mahu menang keliling. Saya fikir itu bukan satu strategi yang unik kepada PMX. Semua ahli politik ... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Is this strategy outdated? Is it sustainable? Or is it becoming increasingly clear that it's not sustainable, and that this repeated attempt to please everyone will only complicate matters and expose how neither side will be satisfied? Because ultimately, they want absolutes. Those who want his release want it uncondit... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 1.699, "end": 6.039, "text": "Or is it becoming increasingly clear that it's not sustainable,"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 6.38, "end": 11.919, "text": "and that this repeated attempt to please everyone"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 11.919, "end": 16.819, "text": "will only complicate matters and ex... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "adakah strategi dan pendekatan ini less tarikh?"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.5, "end": 1.699, "text": "Adakah ia sustainable?"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 1.699, "end": 6.039, "text": "Ataupun sudah semakin lama, semakin jelas bahawa ia tidak sustainable"}, {"speaker": 0, ... | 1 | Is this strategy outdated? Is it sustainable? Or is it becoming increasingly clear that it's not sustainable, and that this repeated attempt to please everyone will only complicate matters and expose how neither side will be satisfied? Because ultimately, they want absolutes. Those who want his release want it uncondit... | adakah strategi dan pendekatan ini less tarikh? Adakah ia sustainable? Ataupun sudah semakin lama, semakin jelas bahawa ia tidak sustainable dan mengulang-ulang kaedah untuk menang kedua-dua belah ini hanya akan merumitkan keadaan dan hanya akan mendedahkan betapa kedua-dua crowd tidak akan menyokong pun. Kerana akhirn... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Those who want his release want it unconditionally. Those who don't support Dato' Seri Najib and believe he should remain in prison and serve his sentence like any other prisoner, won't tolerate any attempts to lessen his sentence. So from the very beginning, I think the best course of action for this PH, this Madani a... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 6.299, "end": 9.939, "text": "and serve his sentence like any other prisoner,"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 9.939, "end": 14.2, "text": "won't tolerate any attempts to lessen his sentence."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 14.2, "end": 19.159, "text": "So from the very beginning, I think the best course ... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Yang mahukan pembebasan akan mutlak mahu pembebasan."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.5, "end": 5.739, "text": "Yang tidak menyokong Dato' Seri Najib dan merasakan beliau harus kekal dalam penjara"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 6.299, "end": 9.939, "text": "dan menjalani hukuman... | 1 | Those who want his release want it unconditionally. Those who don't support Dato' Seri Najib and believe he should remain in prison and serve his sentence like any other prisoner, won't tolerate any attempts to lessen his sentence. So from the very beginning, I think the best course of action for this PH, this Madani a... | Yang mahukan pembebasan akan mutlak mahu pembebasan. Yang tidak menyokong Dato' Seri Najib dan merasakan beliau harus kekal dalam penjara dan menjalani hukuman seperti banduan yang lain, tidak akan memaafkan sebarang usaha untuk meringankan hukuman. Jadi sebab itu daripada asal dan awal, saya rasa apa yang sebaiknya un... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Because there are people who will support that position. They just need to be honest and transparent from the start about their stance. Trying to play both sides is difficult. Because it will eventually alienate everyone. Especially on such an emotive issue. Maybe on minor issues, they can get away with it for a short ... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 4.959, "end": 7.44, "text": "Trying to play both sides is difficult."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 7.44, "end": 11.399, "text": "Because it will eventually alienate everyone."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 11.399, "end": 14.119, "text": "Especially on such an emotive issue."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": ... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Kerana ada crowd yang akan sokong posisi itu."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.5, "end": 4.94, "text": "Cuma kena be honest la, dan awal-awal lagi telus, apa sebenarnya pendirian anda."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 4.959, "end": 7.44, "text": "Bila nak makan keliling ini susah.... | 2 | Because there are people who will support that position. They just need to be honest and transparent from the start about their stance. Trying to play both sides is difficult. Because it will eventually alienate everyone. Especially on such an emotive issue. Maybe on minor issues, they can get away with it for a short ... | Kerana ada crowd yang akan sokong posisi itu. Cuma kena be honest la, dan awal-awal lagi telus, apa sebenarnya pendirian anda. Bila nak makan keliling ini susah. Sebab akhirnya dia akan alienate semua pihak. Terutamanya dalam hal yang emotif seperti ini. Mungkin setengah perkara, you can get away with it and you can ge... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | That's right. I also saw PMX's response. He mentioned that this matter will be left to, first, the courts, and second, the wisdom of the current YDPA. And it's interesting, Shahril, because this response came a day after PMX met with the YDPA in Johor yesterday. | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 6.28, "end": 8.84, "text": "this matter will be left to, first, the courts, and"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 8.84, "end": 15.539, "text": "second, the wisdom of the current YDPA."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 15.539, "end": 21.72, "text": "And it's interesting, Shahril, because this response came a ... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Betul."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 6.12, "text": "Saya tengok jawapan PMX pun, dia ada rujuk bahawa"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 6.28, "end": 8.84, "text": "perkara ini akan diserahkan, satu, kepada mahkamah,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 8.84, "end": 15.539, "text... | 2 | That's right. I also saw PMX's response. He mentioned that this matter will be left to, first, the courts, and second, the wisdom of the current YDPA. And it's interesting, Shahril, because this response came a day after PMX met with the YDPA in Johor yesterday. | Betul. Saya tengok jawapan PMX pun, dia ada rujuk bahawa perkara ini akan diserahkan, satu, kepada mahkamah, yang kedua, kepada kebijaksanaan YDPA yang sediada sekarang. Dan menariknya Shahril, sebab jawapan ini datang satu hari selepas PMX dah menghadap ke bawah duli YDPA di Johor semalam. | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | PMX met with the YDPA in Johor yesterday. He had a meal at 'Asam Pedas Botak' in Johor Bahru. And we don't know what transpired. Perhaps some noted this matter was briefly mentioned yesterday. But what's interesting, Shahril, regarding the PM's meeting with the Agong yesterday, is that I used to see on the PM's social ... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 5.399, "end": 8.539, "text": "And we don't know what transpired."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 8.539, "end": 15.059, "text": "Perhaps some noted this matter was briefly mentioned yesterday."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 15.059, "end": 20.72, "text": "But what's interesting, Shahril, regarding the PM'... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "PMX dah menghadap ke bawah duli YDPA di Johor semalam."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 5.399, "text": "Dia sempat ada santapan di 'Asam Pedas Botak' di Johor Bahru."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 5.399, "end": 8.539, "text": "Dan kita pun tak tahu apa yang transpire."... | 2 | PMX met with the YDPA in Johor yesterday. He had a meal at 'Asam Pedas Botak' in Johor Bahru. And we don't know what transpired. Perhaps some noted this matter was briefly mentioned yesterday. But what's interesting, Shahril, regarding the PM's meeting with the Agong yesterday, is that I used to see on the PM's social ... | PMX dah menghadap ke bawah duli YDPA di Johor semalam. Dia sempat ada santapan di 'Asam Pedas Botak' di Johor Bahru. Dan kita pun tak tahu apa yang transpire. Mungkin, ada yang menyatakan bahawa perkara ini dirujuk sepintas lalu semalam. Tetapi yang menarik Shahril berkenaan dengan PM menghadap Agong semalam ini, saya ... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | is that I used to see on the PM's social media that he, or his team, would upload photos of the pre-Cabinet meeting with the YDPA. Every time there was a pre-Cabinet meeting. So, the convention for the Cabinet in Malaysia is that before a Cabinet meeting, the Prime Minister meets with the YDPA at Istana Negara. | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 10.681, "end": 13.261, "text": "Every time there was a pre-Cabinet meeting."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 13.261, "end": 18.421, "text": "So, the convention for the Cabinet in Malaysia is that before a Cabinet meeting, the"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 18.421, "end": 25.54, "text": "Prime Minister me... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "saya biasa tengok dalam media sosial PM,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 10.34, "text": "dia, PM, ataupun tim PM akan muat naik gambar pre-kabinet dengan YDPA."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 10.681, "end": 13.261, "text": "Setiap kali ada mesyuarat pre-kabinet."}, {"s... | 2 | is that I used to see on the PM's social media that he, or his team, would upload photos of the pre-Cabinet meeting with the YDPA. Every time there was a pre-Cabinet meeting. So, the convention for the Cabinet in Malaysia is that before a Cabinet meeting, the Prime Minister meets with the YDPA at Istana Negara. | saya biasa tengok dalam media sosial PM, dia, PM, ataupun tim PM akan muat naik gambar pre-kabinet dengan YDPA. Setiap kali ada mesyuarat pre-kabinet. So konvensyen Jemaah Menteri di Malaysia ini, sebelum mesyuarat Jemaah Menteri, Perdana Menteri yang ada, akan menghadap YDPA di Istana Negara. | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Prime Minister meets with the YDPA at Istana Negara. And they discuss whatever the YDPA wishes to discuss. Usually regarding important issues. And this is then relayed to the Cabinet. as a preface to the Cabinet meeting. This has been the convention. I don't know, but it's been a while since I've seen Dato' Seri Anwar ... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 5.641, "end": 8.421, "text": "Usually regarding important issues."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 8.421, "end": 12.361, "text": "And this is then relayed to the Cabinet."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 12.721, "end": 14.981, "text": "as a preface to the Cabinet meeting."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 15.001,... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Perdana Menteri yang ada, akan menghadap YDPA di Istana Negara."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 5.641, "text": "Dan akan membincangkan apa saja YDPA nak bincang."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 5.641, "end": 8.421, "text": "Biasanya berkenaan dengan isu-isu penting."},... | 2 | Prime Minister meets with the YDPA at Istana Negara. And they discuss whatever the YDPA wishes to discuss. Usually regarding important issues. And this is then relayed to the Cabinet. as a preface to the Cabinet meeting. This has been the convention. I don't know, but it's been a while since I've seen Dato' Seri Anwar ... | Perdana Menteri yang ada, akan menghadap YDPA di Istana Negara. Dan akan membincangkan apa saja YDPA nak bincang. Biasanya berkenaan dengan isu-isu penting. Dan perkara itu akan disampaikan kepada Jemaah Menteri. sebagai mukaddimah dalam mesyuarat Jemaah Menteri. This is convention daripada dulu. I don't know, but it's... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | I understand there haven't been any pre-Cabinet meetings for a while. So anyway, that's just my observation. I'm not sure what's been going on. Right. Anyway, that's regarding the Dato' Seri Najib issue. I think we'll leave our comments at that because we don't want to be held liable for any statement that could be con... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 4.78, "end": 5.08, "text": "Right."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 5.979, "end": 9.6, "text": "Anyway, that's regarding the Dato' Seri Najib issue."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 9.62, "end": 12.059, "text": "I think we'll leave our comments at that"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 12.299, "end": 17.4, "text"... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Saya difahamkan dah lama dah tidak ada pre-kabinet meeting."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.94, "end": 4.6, "text": "So anyway, itu just my observation lah. Saya tak pasti what's been going on."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 4.78, "end": 5.08, "text": "Right."}, {"speaker": 1, ... | 2 | I understand there haven't been any pre-Cabinet meetings for a while. So anyway, that's just my observation. I'm not sure what's been going on. Right. Anyway, that's regarding the Dato' Seri Najib issue. I think we'll leave our comments at that because we don't want to be held liable for any statement that could be con... | Saya difahamkan dah lama dah tidak ada pre-kabinet meeting. So anyway, itu just my observation lah. Saya tak pasti what's been going on. Right. Anyway, itu berkenaan dengan isu Datuk Seri Najib. Saya rasa kupasan kita setakat itu sahaja sebab kita tidak mahu sabit dengan sebarang kenyataan yang boleh merupakan sebagai ... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Shahril, besides that issue, there was a press conference this morning by Tun Dr. Mahathir responding to the RCI report on the Pulau Batu Putih issue. So, as we know and discussed in the last episode, Tun Dr. Mahathir was cited numerous times in the RCI report. | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 11.32, "end": 15.26, "text": "on the Pulau Batu Putih issue."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 15.78, "end": 19.82, "text": "So, as we know and discussed in the last episode,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 20.46, "end": 27.0, "text": "Tun Dr. Mahathir was cited numerous times in the RCI report."}, {"speak... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Shahril, selain daripada isu itu, ada satu sidang akhbar"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.519, "end": 11.1, "text": "pada pagi tadi juga yang dibuat oleh YAB Tun Dr. Mahathir yang menjawab laporan RCI"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 11.32, "end": 15.26, "text": "berkenaan dengan ... | 2 | Shahril, besides that issue, there was a press conference this morning by Tun Dr. Mahathir responding to the RCI report on the Pulau Batu Putih issue. So, as we know and discussed in the last episode, Tun Dr. Mahathir was cited numerous times in the RCI report. | Shahril, selain daripada isu itu, ada satu sidang akhbar pada pagi tadi juga yang dibuat oleh YAB Tun Dr. Mahathir yang menjawab laporan RCI berkenaan dengan isu Pulau Batu Putih. So, seperti mana yang kita tahu dan kita telah mengulas pada episod yang lepas, nama Tun Dr. Mahathir telah pun dipetik banyak kali dalam la... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Tun Dr. Mahathir was cited numerous times in the RCI report. And the RCI recommended that a police report be filed against him. And based on that investigation, there might be grounds to prosecute Tun Mahathir under the penal code section concerning deception or fraud. Before I comment on what Tun Dr. Mahathir said, Sh... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 8.74, "end": 14.9, "text": "And based on that investigation, there might be grounds to prosecute Tun Mahathir"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 15.059, "end": 21.759, "text": "under the penal code section concerning deception or fraud."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 23.22, "end": 26.86, "text": "Before I ... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "nama Tun Dr. Mahathir telah pun dipetik banyak kali dalam laporan RCI tersebut."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.939, "end": 8.42, "text": "Dan ada syor daripada RCI itu supaya satu laporan polis dibuat terhadap Tun Dr. Mahathir."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 8.74, "end": 14.9,... | 2 | Tun Dr. Mahathir was cited numerous times in the RCI report. And the RCI recommended that a police report be filed against him. And based on that investigation, there might be grounds to prosecute Tun Mahathir under the penal code section concerning deception or fraud. Before I comment on what Tun Dr. Mahathir said, Sh... | nama Tun Dr. Mahathir telah pun dipetik banyak kali dalam laporan RCI tersebut. Dan ada syor daripada RCI itu supaya satu laporan polis dibuat terhadap Tun Dr. Mahathir. Dan atas siasatan itu, mungkin ada asas-asas untuk didakwa Tun Mahathir di bawah seksyen kanun keseksaan yang melibatkan deception ataupun penipuan. C... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Before I comment on what Tun Dr. Mahathir said, Shahril, first, I reread the report and was informed by one of the RCI members that the decision to recommend filing a police report against Tun Dr. Mahathir and charging him was not unanimous. There were two dissenting views within the RCI. | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 6.24, "end": 10.74, "text": "of the RCI members that the decision to recommend filing a police report against Tun Dr. Mahathir"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 12.36, "end": 16.68, "text": "and charging him"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 17.019, "end": 19.619, "text": "was not unanimous."}, {"speaker": 0... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Cuma sebelum saya mengulas apa yang Tun Dr. Mahathir cakap, Shahril,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.659, "end": 6.22, "text": "pertama, saya baca balik dan saya diberitahu oleh salah seorang"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 6.24, "end": 10.74, "text": "daripada ahli RCI itu baha... | 2 | Before I comment on what Tun Dr. Mahathir said, Shahril, first, I reread the report and was informed by one of the RCI members that the decision to recommend filing a police report against Tun Dr. Mahathir and charging him was not unanimous. There were two dissenting views within the RCI. | Cuma sebelum saya mengulas apa yang Tun Dr. Mahathir cakap, Shahril, pertama, saya baca balik dan saya diberitahu oleh salah seorang daripada ahli RCI itu bahawa keputusan untuk mengesyorkan Tun Dr. Mahathir dibuat laporan polis terhadap beliau dan didakwa ataupun di-charge bukanlah keputusan yang sebulat suara. There ... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | There were two dissenting views within the RCI. So, there were members of this Royal Commission of Inquiry who disagreed. Second, upon learning it wasn't unanimous, I wondered if this recommendation was motivated by a vendetta, or revenge, against Dr. Mahathir. | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 9.119, "end": 16.16, "text": "Second, upon learning it wasn't unanimous,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 16.5, "end": 22.72, "text": "I wondered if this recommendation was motivated by a"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 23.72, "end": 28.959, "text": "vendetta, or revenge, against Dr. Mahathir."}, {"speake... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "There were two dissenting views dalam RCI itu."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.82, "end": 8.619, "text": "Jadi memang ada ahli Suruhanjaya Siasatan Diraja ini yang tidak setuju."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 9.119, "end": 16.16, "text": "Dan yang kedua, bila saya dapat tahu ba... | 2 | There were two dissenting views within the RCI. So, there were members of this Royal Commission of Inquiry who disagreed. Second, upon learning it wasn't unanimous, I wondered if this recommendation was motivated by a vendetta, or revenge, against Dr. Mahathir. | There were two dissenting views dalam RCI itu. Jadi memang ada ahli Suruhanjaya Siasatan Diraja ini yang tidak setuju. Dan yang kedua, bila saya dapat tahu bahawa bukan unanimous, saya pun tertanya-tanya adakah ini merupakan satu syor yang bersifat vendetta, ataupun vengeance terhadap Dr. Mahathir. | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | vendetta, or revenge, against Dr. Mahathir. And Dr. Mahathir released a statement today stating that if he is accused and found guilty of deceiving the public or the country, of selling the country out, of treason, then the entire cabinet should be charged with the same offense because the cabinet agreed. | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 4.461, "end": 11.58, "text": "if he is accused and found guilty of deceiving"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 11.601, "end": 17.341, "text": "the public or the country,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 17.36, "end": 19.66, "text": "of selling the country out, of treason,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 20.041, ... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "bersifat vendetta, ataupun vengeance terhadap Dr. Mahathir."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.52, "end": 4.44, "text": "Dan Dr. Mahathir pada hari ini telah pun keluar kenyataan dengan menyatakan bahawa"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 4.461, "end": 11.58, "text": "kalau saya ditud... | 2 | vendetta, or revenge, against Dr. Mahathir. And Dr. Mahathir released a statement today stating that if he is accused and found guilty of deceiving the public or the country, of selling the country out, of treason, then the entire cabinet should be charged with the same offense because the cabinet agreed. | bersifat vendetta, ataupun vengeance terhadap Dr. Mahathir. Dan Dr. Mahathir pada hari ini telah pun keluar kenyataan dengan menyatakan bahawa kalau saya dituduh dan kalau saya bersalah atas kesalahan menipu ataupun deceive the public ataupun deceive the country dan sell the country out, pengkhianatan, maka the whole c... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | because the cabinet agreed. And some responded to Dr. Mahathir today, saying that no, the issue is that Dr. Mahathir deceived the cabinet. He made the decision two days before the Cabinet meeting and wrote a letter to the Solicitor General of Malaysia. And only after that, after even Singapore had been informed that Ma... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 5.381, "end": 7.8, "text": "no, the issue is that Dr. Mahathir deceived the cabinet."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 7.92, "end": 10.78, "text": "He made the decision two days before the Cabinet meeting"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 11.16, "end": 17.28, "text": "and wrote a letter to the Solicitor Gene... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "sebab kabinet setuju."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.841, "end": 5.101, "text": "Dan ada yang balas Dr. Mahathir hari ini juga, yang mengatakan bahawa"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 5.381, "end": 7.8, "text": "no, the issue is Dr. Mahathir deceive the cabinet."}, {"speaker": 1... | 2 | because the cabinet agreed. And some responded to Dr. Mahathir today, saying that no, the issue is that Dr. Mahathir deceived the cabinet. He made the decision two days before the Cabinet meeting and wrote a letter to the Solicitor General of Malaysia. And only after that, after even Singapore had been informed that Ma... | sebab kabinet setuju. Dan ada yang balas Dr. Mahathir hari ini juga, yang mengatakan bahawa no, the issue is Dr. Mahathir deceive the cabinet. Dia telah buat keputusan dua hari sebelum mesyuarat Jemaah Menteri dan beliau telah tulis surat kepada Solicitor General Malaysia dan hanya selepas itu, apabila Singapura pun te... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | was the cabinet informed. So, some say what Dr. Mahathir said is disingenuous, because he made a decision and then informed the Cabinet. But Dr. Mahathir would argue that well, that may be the case, but he only gave his opinion to the Solicitor General, and second, the cabinet ultimately agreed with his actions. So, I ... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 4.52, "end": 7.94, "text": "because he made a decision and then informed the Cabinet."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 8.261, "end": 11.321, "text": "But Dr. Mahathir would argue that"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 11.341, "end": 16.52, "text": "well, that may be the case, but he only gave his opinion to... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "dimaklumkan kepada kabinet."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.52, "end": 4.5, "text": "Jadi ada yang kata, apa yang Dr. Mahathir kata, disingenuous,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 4.52, "end": 7.94, "text": "sebab dia telah buat keputusan, lepas itu dia maklumkan kepada Jemaah Me... | 2 | was the cabinet informed. So, some say what Dr. Mahathir said is disingenuous, because he made a decision and then informed the Cabinet. But Dr. Mahathir would argue that well, that may be the case, but he only gave his opinion to the Solicitor General, and second, the cabinet ultimately agreed with his actions. So, I ... | dimaklumkan kepada kabinet. Jadi ada yang kata, apa yang Dr. Mahathir kata, disingenuous, sebab dia telah buat keputusan, lepas itu dia maklumkan kepada Jemaah Menteri. Tetapi pada pihak Dr. Mahathir pula, dia akan kata bahawa well, that may be the case tetapi saya hanya memberi pandangan saya kepada Solicitor General ... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | One, which you've outlined, is Tun Mahathir's narrative, namely that, as you last mentioned, the decision was still the cabinet's, not his alone. The question is, in making that joint decision, was the cabinet deceived? Because that's supposedly an element of the criminal investigation against Tun Mahathir, right? But ... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 5.06, "end": 7.86, "text": "the decision was still the cabinet's, not his alone."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 9.64, "end": 14.0, "text": "The question is, in making that joint decision, was the"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 14.0, "end": 20.86, "text": "cabinet deceived? Because that's supposedly an ... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Satu, yang KJ dah gariskan iaitu naratif daripada Tun Mahathir"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 1.44, "end": 5.019, "text": "yakni bahawa, yang last KJ sebut itu."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 5.06, "end": 7.86, "text": "Keputusan itu masih keputusan kabinet, bukan keputusan dia ... | 1 | One, which you've outlined, is Tun Mahathir's narrative, namely that, as you last mentioned, the decision was still the cabinet's, not his alone. The question is, in making that joint decision, was the cabinet deceived? Because that's supposedly an element of the criminal investigation against Tun Mahathir, right? But ... | Satu, yang KJ dah gariskan iaitu naratif daripada Tun Mahathir yakni bahawa, yang last KJ sebut itu. Keputusan itu masih keputusan kabinet, bukan keputusan dia seorang. Persoalannya adakah dalam kabinet buat keputusan bersama itu, kabinet telah ditipu, sebab itu yang dikatakan boleh jadi unsur siasatan jenayah atas Tun... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | But to prove that Mahathir deceived the cabinet, I'm not sure how... what the RCI found that indicates Mahathir deliberately deceived them. So, that might be why Tun Mahathir feels that, as he mentioned in the press conference, the RCI is targeting only him. That's what he said in the press conference. Second, the seco... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 8.3, "end": 13.3, "text": "So, that might be why Tun Mahathir feels that,"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 13.319, "end": 16.08, "text": "as he mentioned in the press conference,"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 16.08, "end": 20.18, "text": "the RCI is targeting only him."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 20.199,... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Tapi kalau nak membuktikan bahawa Mahathir menipu kabinet itu,"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 1.559, "end": 7.68, "text": "saya tak pasti macam mana... apa yang RCI telah menjumpai unsur-unsur Mahathir sengaja menipu."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 8.3, "end": 13.3, "text": "So,... | 1 | But to prove that Mahathir deceived the cabinet, I'm not sure how... what the RCI found that indicates Mahathir deliberately deceived them. So, that might be why Tun Mahathir feels that, as he mentioned in the press conference, the RCI is targeting only him. That's what he said in the press conference. Second, the seco... | Tapi kalau nak membuktikan bahawa Mahathir menipu kabinet itu, saya tak pasti macam mana... apa yang RCI telah menjumpai unsur-unsur Mahathir sengaja menipu. So, itu mungkin benda yang membuatkan Tun Mahathir merasakan bahawa seperti mana yang disebut dalam sidang media itu, memang RCI ini saja nak tuju kepada saya seo... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Second, the second point is, whether we think this is simply targeted at him, a political vendetta, and so on, it is, by definition, speculation, because we don't have evidence A or B. We can only offer a possible explanation from one perspective. It's a rather awkward situation. But, the second point is to remind our ... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 4.641, "end": 6.641, "text": "a political vendetta, and so on,"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 7.16, "end": 11.16, "text": "it is, by definition, speculation, because we don't have evidence A or B."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 11.761, "end": 15.9, "text": "We can only offer a possible explanation from... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Kedua, poin kedua ialah,"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.521, "end": 4.62, "text": "sama ada kita merasakan ini adalah saja nak tuju kepada dia,"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 4.641, "end": 6.641, "text": "political vendetta dan sebagainya,"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 7.16, "end... | 1 | Second, the second point is, whether we think this is simply targeted at him, a political vendetta, and so on, it is, by definition, speculation, because we don't have evidence A or B. We can only offer a possible explanation from one perspective. It's a rather awkward situation. But, the second point is to remind our ... | Kedua, poin kedua ialah, sama ada kita merasakan ini adalah saja nak tuju kepada dia, political vendetta dan sebagainya, ia secara definisinya akan menjadi spekulasi sebab kita tak ada bukti A atau B. Kita cuma boleh berikan gambaran kenapa bagi satu sudut pandangan, ini satu perkara yang agak janggal. Tapi, isu kedua ... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | In this case, what actually happened? Because when a story like this emerges, KJ, many people might opt for the simplest definition or interpretation: We had a joint case with Singapore regarding Pulau Batu Putih, we didn't fight for it, and Mahathir just handed it over to Singapore. But what actually happened is that ... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 4.34, "end": 9.82, "text": "or interpretation: We had a joint case with Singapore"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 9.82, "end": 14.779, "text": "regarding Pulau Batu Putih, we didn't fight for it, and Mahathir just handed it over to Singapore."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 14.779, "end": 18.019, "text":... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Kes ni, apa sebenarnya yang berlaku? Sebab bila jadi cerita macam ni KJ,"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.5, "end": 4.34, "text": "ramai yang mungkin akan fikir, diambil yang paling mudah lah definisi"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 4.34, "end": 9.82, "text": "ataupun tafsiran pa... | 2 | In this case, what actually happened? Because when a story like this emerges, KJ, many people might opt for the simplest definition or interpretation: We had a joint case with Singapore regarding Pulau Batu Putih, we didn't fight for it, and Mahathir just handed it over to Singapore. But what actually happened is that ... | Kes ni, apa sebenarnya yang berlaku? Sebab bila jadi cerita macam ni KJ, ramai yang mungkin akan fikir, diambil yang paling mudah lah definisi ataupun tafsiran paling mudah, kita ada kes bersama dengan Singapura soal Pulau Batu Putih dan kita tak melawan, Mahathir bagi terus kepada Singapura. Sedangkan sebenarnya apa y... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | And accept whatever the outcome? Accept whatever the decision. The decision was not in Malaysia's favor, and, long story short, Tun Mahathir likely received advice and opinions from legal experts who felt that it would be difficult to challenge the decision for any reason. So, based on that assessment, and not wanting ... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 4.26, "end": 9.9, "text": "and, long story short, Tun Mahathir likely received advice"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 9.9, "end": 13.501, "text": "and opinions from legal experts who felt that"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 13.501, "end": 17.461, "text": "it would be difficult to challenge the decision ... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Dan terima apa sahaja keputusan?"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.5, "end": 4.26, "text": "Terima apa sahaja keputusan. Keputusan tidak memihak kepada Malaysia"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 4.26, "end": 9.9, "text": "dan pendek cerita, Tun Mahathir mendapat barangkali nasihat"}... | 1 | And accept whatever the outcome? Accept whatever the decision. The decision was not in Malaysia's favor, and, long story short, Tun Mahathir likely received advice and opinions from legal experts who felt that it would be difficult to challenge the decision for any reason. So, based on that assessment, and not wanting ... | Dan terima apa sahaja keputusan? Terima apa sahaja keputusan. Keputusan tidak memihak kepada Malaysia dan pendek cerita, Tun Mahathir mendapat barangkali nasihat dan juga pandangan pakar perundangan yang merasakan bahawa susahlah, susah untuk challenge keputusan ni, atas apa-apa sebab lah. So atas pertimbangan itu dan ... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | resources, and so on, he brought a decision to the Cabinet and said that the recommendation was not to pursue the matter further. That's it. So, to claim that if Tun Mahathir hadn't made this decision, Pulau Batu Putih would still be ours isn't really true. Because the ICJ, to which both countries in this dispute had a... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 3.34, "end": 7.9, "text": "That's it. So, to claim that if Tun Mahathir hadn't made this decision,"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 7.9, "end": 10.86, "text": "Pulau Batu Putih would still be ours isn't really true."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 10.86, "end": 16.62, "text": "Because the ICJ, to which bo... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "resources, sumber dan sebagainya, dia buat keputusan untuk beri pada kabinet"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.66, "end": 3.34, "text": "katakan bahawa, pengesyorannya adalah, tak payah fight lagi."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 3.34, "end": 7.9, "text": "That's it. So nak kata b... | 2 | resources, and so on, he brought a decision to the Cabinet and said that the recommendation was not to pursue the matter further. That's it. So, to claim that if Tun Mahathir hadn't made this decision, Pulau Batu Putih would still be ours isn't really true. Because the ICJ, to which both countries in this dispute had a... | resources, sumber dan sebagainya, dia buat keputusan untuk beri pada kabinet katakan bahawa, pengesyorannya adalah, tak payah fight lagi. That's it. So nak kata bahawa, kalau Tun Mahathir tak buat keputusan ni, Pulau Batu Putih masih kita punya, that's not really true lah. Sebab keputusan mahkamah ICJ yang mana kedua-d... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | So, I hope people remember that broader context. Let's not oversimplify this issue by claiming deception or negligence on Tun Mahathir's part. The idea that if it weren't for him, we would still have Pulau Batu Putih is just not true. I don't think it's that straightforward. If we're honest about the facts, the ICJ rul... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0.78, "end": 4.78, "text": "Let's not oversimplify this issue by claiming deception or"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 4.78, "end": 9.46, "text": "negligence on Tun Mahathir's part. The idea that if it weren't for him, we would still have Pulau Batu Putih"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 9.46, "end": 10.6... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "So konteks besar itu saya harap orang ingatlah."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.78, "end": 4.78, "text": "So jangan kita permudah sangat isu ni mengatakan bahawa tipu ke tak tipu,"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 4.78, "end": 9.46, "text": "ini adalah kecuaian Tun Mahathir. Kalau... | 1 | So, I hope people remember that broader context. Let's not oversimplify this issue by claiming deception or negligence on Tun Mahathir's part. The idea that if it weren't for him, we would still have Pulau Batu Putih is just not true. I don't think it's that straightforward. If we're honest about the facts, the ICJ rul... | So konteks besar itu saya harap orang ingatlah. So jangan kita permudah sangat isu ni mengatakan bahawa tipu ke tak tipu, ini adalah kecuaian Tun Mahathir. Kalau bukan dia yang jual Pulau Batu Putih ni, masih kita punya. I don't think it's that straightforward dan kalau kita jujur pada fakta dan fakta di sini, keputusa... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | So that was the judgment call, I suppose, that the Cabinet made, and not Tun Mahathir alone. So, that's my observation, KJ, regarding what transpired. Which is the essence of Tun Dr. Mahathir's argument. I'm reading [his statement now]: "The decision not to proceed with this review and interpretation was a Cabinet deci... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 1.14, "end": 2.659, "text": "and not Tun Mahathir alone."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 2.659, "end": 8.14, "text": "So, that's my observation, KJ, regarding what transpired."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 8.499, "end": 13.127, "text": "Which is the essence of Tun Dr. Mahathir's argument."}, {"speaker"... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "So that was the judgement call I suppose, that the cabinet made."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 1.14, "end": 2.659, "text": "Dan bukan Tun Mahathir sorang."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 2.659, "end": 8.14, "text": "So itu pemerhatian saya KJ berkenaan dengan apa yang telah pun ... | 2 | So that was the judgment call, I suppose, that the Cabinet made, and not Tun Mahathir alone. So, that's my observation, KJ, regarding what transpired. Which is the essence of Tun Dr. Mahathir's argument. I'm reading [his statement now]: "The decision not to proceed with this review and interpretation was a Cabinet deci... | So that was the judgement call I suppose, that the cabinet made. Dan bukan Tun Mahathir sorang. So itu pemerhatian saya KJ berkenaan dengan apa yang telah pun berlaku. yang menjadi intipati kepada hujah Tun Dr. Mahathir. Saya baca, 'Keputusan untuk tidak teruskan dengan semakan dan tafsiran ini adalah keputusan yang di... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | If you don't believe me, please ask those present at the Cabinet meeting and refer to the minutes of the Cabinet meeting on May 23, 2018. I also want to ask why, when this decision was made, did Mohamad Sabu, Anthony Loke, Gobind Singh Deo, and Zulkifli Ahmad remain silent? Or did they agree, just as they agreed with A... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 6.249, "end": 9.769, "text": "I also want to ask why, when this decision was made,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 9.769, "end": 15.609, "text": "did Mohamad Sabu, Anthony Loke, Gobind Singh Deo, and Zulkifli Ahmad"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 15.609, "end": 17.409, "text": "remain silent?"}, {"speake... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Kalau tidak percaya sila bertanya kepada mereka yang hadir pada mesyuarat kabinet"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.57, "end": 6.249, "text": "dan rujuk cabutan minit mesyuarat Jemaah Menteri 23 Mei 2018."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 6.249, "end": 9.769, "text": "Saya juga ingi... | 2 | If you don't believe me, please ask those present at the Cabinet meeting and refer to the minutes of the Cabinet meeting on May 23, 2018. I also want to ask why, when this decision was made, did Mohamad Sabu, Anthony Loke, Gobind Singh Deo, and Zulkifli Ahmad remain silent? Or did they agree, just as they agreed with A... | Kalau tidak percaya sila bertanya kepada mereka yang hadir pada mesyuarat kabinet dan rujuk cabutan minit mesyuarat Jemaah Menteri 23 Mei 2018. Saya juga ingin bertanya pada masa keputusan ini dibuat, mengapa Muhammad bin Sabu, Anthony Loke, Gobind Singh dan Zulkifli Ahmad tidak berkata apa-apa? Atau adakah mereka bers... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | That's a serious accusation. He's asking why they didn't speak up then, but agreed with Dato Seri Anwar's Cabinet to proceed with the RCI. Of course they agreed. New boss. And third, quoting Tun Dr. Mahathir again: "The Prime Minister recently stated that this issue constitutes treason. If so, from May 2018 to February... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 3.459, "end": 8.459, "text": "but agreed with Dato Seri Anwar's Cabinet"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 8.459, "end": 10.34, "text": "to proceed with the RCI."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 10.379, "end": 12.179, "text": "Of course they agreed. New boss."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 12.179, "end": 15.619,... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Berat juga tuduhan ni."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 3.459, "text": "Dia kata, why did you not say anything then?"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 3.459, "end": 8.459, "text": "Tetapi setuju dengan kabinet Jemaah Menteri Datuk Seri Anwar"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 8.4... | 2 | That's a serious accusation. He's asking why they didn't speak up then, but agreed with Dato Seri Anwar's Cabinet to proceed with the RCI. Of course they agreed. New boss. And third, quoting Tun Dr. Mahathir again: "The Prime Minister recently stated that this issue constitutes treason. If so, from May 2018 to February... | Berat juga tuduhan ni. Dia kata, why did you not say anything then? Tetapi setuju dengan kabinet Jemaah Menteri Datuk Seri Anwar untuk teruskan dengan RCI. Of course, dia bersetuju. Bos baru. Dan yang ketiga, quote balik Tun Dr. Mahathir. 'Perdana Menteri baru-baru ini menyatakan isu ini adalah pengkhianatan. Kalau beg... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | why didn't Wan Azizah, Dato Seri Wan Azizah, the wife of PMX and the Deputy Prime Minister at that time, speak out about this treason? Wasn't Wan Azizah my Deputy Prime Minister, and isn't she the Prime Minister's wife now?" So that's the point I want to convey. There's a basis to it, KJ. These are fundamental points. ... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 3.22, "end": 6.06, "text": "speak out about this treason?"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 6.06, "end": 10.379, "text": "Wasn't Wan Azizah my Deputy Prime Minister, and isn't she the Prime Minister's wife now?\""}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 10.7, "end": 14.98, "text": "So that's the point I want to con... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "tidakkah Wan Azizah, Datuk Seri Wan Azizah, isteri kepada PMX"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 3.22, "text": "dan juga timbalan Perdana Menteri pada waktu ketika itu,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 3.22, "end": 6.06, "text": "bercakap mengenai pengkhianatan ini?"}, {"s... | 2 | why didn't Wan Azizah, Dato Seri Wan Azizah, the wife of PMX and the Deputy Prime Minister at that time, speak out about this treason? Wasn't Wan Azizah my Deputy Prime Minister, and isn't she the Prime Minister's wife now?" So that's the point I want to convey. There's a basis to it, KJ. These are fundamental points. ... | tidakkah Wan Azizah, Datuk Seri Wan Azizah, isteri kepada PMX dan juga timbalan Perdana Menteri pada waktu ketika itu, bercakap mengenai pengkhianatan ini? Bukankah Wan Azizah TPM pada saya dan isteri Perdana Menteri sekarang?' So itu poin yang saya rasa nak disampaikan. Ada asas KJ. Poin yang ada asas. Sebab bukan han... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | to which he was referring, but the very decision to establish the RCI, even before its findings were released— the decision to establish the RCI itself—contradicts what happened in Tun Mahathir's Cabinet. Not the findings, but the fact that they are conducting the RCI itself raises questions. That's what Tun Mahathir i... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 5.7, "end": 10.14, "text": "the decision to establish the RCI itself\u2014contradicts what"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 10.14, "end": 12.701, "text": "happened in Tun Mahathir's Cabinet."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 13.3, "end": 16.381, "text": "Not the findings, but the fact that they are conducti... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "apa yang dirujuk oleh Tun Mahathir."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.5, "end": 5.7, "text": "Tetapi keputusan untuk buat RCI itu sendiri, sebelum dapatan RCI."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 5.7, "end": 10.14, "text": "Keputusan untuk buat RCI itu sendiri bercanggah dengan apa ya... | 2 | to which he was referring, but the very decision to establish the RCI, even before its findings were released— the decision to establish the RCI itself—contradicts what happened in Tun Mahathir's Cabinet. Not the findings, but the fact that they are conducting the RCI itself raises questions. That's what Tun Mahathir i... | apa yang dirujuk oleh Tun Mahathir. Tetapi keputusan untuk buat RCI itu sendiri, sebelum dapatan RCI. Keputusan untuk buat RCI itu sendiri bercanggah dengan apa yang telah berlaku dalam kabinet zaman Tun Mahathir. Not the finding, but the fact that you are actually doing the RCI itself sudah menimbulkan persoalan. Itu ... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Because if there was any treason, there must have been a dissenting view in the original Cabinet or in the Cabinet meeting that Tun Mahathir referred to. Someone must have said, "I disagree." Or even in Cabinet meetings up to 2020. Up to March 2020. Right. Okay, moving on from the RCI topic. Another topic that came up ... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 7.94, "end": 12.1, "text": "or in the Cabinet meeting that Tun Mahathir referred to."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 12.1, "end": 15.979, "text": "Someone must have said, \"I disagree.\""}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 16.1, "end": 19.38, "text": "Or even in Cabinet meetings up to 2020."}, {"speaker": 0,... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Sebab kalau ada sesuatu pengkhianatan yang berlaku,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 7.94, "text": "mesti ada dissenting view di dalam Jemaah Menteri yang original (yang terdahulu)"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 7.94, "end": 12.1, "text": "ataupun mesyuarat Jemaah Ment... | 2 | Because if there was any treason, there must have been a dissenting view in the original Cabinet or in the Cabinet meeting that Tun Mahathir referred to. Someone must have said, "I disagree." Or even in Cabinet meetings up to 2020. Up to March 2020. Right. Okay, moving on from the RCI topic. Another topic that came up ... | Sebab kalau ada sesuatu pengkhianatan yang berlaku, mesti ada dissenting view di dalam Jemaah Menteri yang original (yang terdahulu) ataupun mesyuarat Jemaah Menteri yang dimaksudkan oleh Tun Mahathir itu. Mestilah ada seorang yang kata, saya tidak setuju. Ataupun mesyuarat Jemaah Menteri sampai ke 2020. Sampai ke Mac ... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Another topic that came up today, KJ, is the news about the T15 classification. Is it out yet? Finally! No, it's just news that the classification will be announced in mid-2025. An announcement about an announcement. So, no surprise, even though the minister who mentioned this previously said surprises are good. | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 4.9, "end": 5.673, "text": "Is it out yet?"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 5.698, "end": 6.698, "text": "Finally!"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 6.723, "end": 14.875, "text": "No, it's just news that the classification will be announced in mid-2025."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 14.9, "end": 17.9, "text": ... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Satu lagi topik yang berlaku pada hari ini KJ,"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.5, "end": 4.9, "text": "ialah berita bahawa klasifikasi T15."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 4.9, "end": 5.673, "text": "Dah ada dah?"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 5.698, "end": 6.698, "text": "Dah ada a... | 2 | Another topic that came up today, KJ, is the news about the T15 classification. Is it out yet? Finally! No, it's just news that the classification will be announced in mid-2025. An announcement about an announcement. So, no surprise, even though the minister who mentioned this previously said surprises are good. | Satu lagi topik yang berlaku pada hari ini KJ, ialah berita bahawa klasifikasi T15. Dah ada dah? Dah ada akhirnya. Bukan ada, ada berita sajalah... Akan diumumkan klasifikasinya pada pertengahan 2025. Pengumuman tentang pengumuman. Jadi tak ada kejutan, sebab menteri yang menyebut ini pernah mengatakan bahawa kejutan i... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | So, no surprise, even though the minister who mentioned this previously said surprises are good. In this case, it's not good because he said it's six months away, that the actual definition of T15 that will be used for subsidy targeting will be announced in mid-2025. For subsidy targeting. Yes. So, I'm reading this new... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 7.7, "end": 14.78, "text": "that will be used for subsidy targeting will be announced in mid-2025."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 14.78, "end": 17.42, "text": "For subsidy targeting."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 17.42, "end": 19.42, "text": "Yes."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 19.42, "end": 23.42, "text"... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Jadi tak ada kejutan, sebab menteri yang menyebut ini pernah mengatakan bahawa kejutan itu bagus."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 0.5, "end": 7.7, "text": "Dalam hal ini tak bagus sebab dia kata 6 bulan lagi lah, pertengahan 2025 akan diumumkan"}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 7.7,... | 1 | So, no surprise, even though the minister who mentioned this previously said surprises are good. In this case, it's not good because he said it's six months away, that the actual definition of T15 that will be used for subsidy targeting will be announced in mid-2025. For subsidy targeting. Yes. So, I'm reading this new... | Jadi tak ada kejutan, sebab menteri yang menyebut ini pernah mengatakan bahawa kejutan itu bagus. Dalam hal ini tak bagus sebab dia kata 6 bulan lagi lah, pertengahan 2025 akan diumumkan apa barangkali, apa erti, definisi, takrifan T15 yang sebenar-benarnya yang akan digunakan untuk penyasaran subsidi. Ya. So saya teng... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | don't see any in-depth details. He just said the middle of next year, so that's a clear statement that any petrol price increase for the T15 group will only happen in the middle of next year. Onwards, yes. That's the first point. The second is, we know from this news, which is Rafizi Ramli's response | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 7.099, "end": 17.7, "text": "that any petrol price increase for the T15 group will only happen in the middle of next year."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 17.7, "end": 18.699, "text": "Onwards, yes."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 18.699, "end": 20.699, "text": "That's the first point."}, {"speaker": 1, ... | [{"speaker": 0, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Tak nampak sebarang butiran yang begitu mendalam."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 7.099, "text": "Cuma dia kata bahawa pertengahan tahun depan, so itu adalah satu kenyataan yang jelas"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 7.099, "end": 17.7, "text": "bahawa sebarang kenaikan... | 2 | don't see any in-depth details. He just said the middle of next year, so that's a clear statement that any petrol price increase for the T15 group will only happen in the middle of next year. Onwards, yes. That's the first point. The second is, we know from this news, which is Rafizi Ramli's response | Tak nampak sebarang butiran yang begitu mendalam. Cuma dia kata bahawa pertengahan tahun depan, so itu adalah satu kenyataan yang jelas bahawa sebarang kenaikan petrol untuk golongan T15 hanya akan berlaku pada pertengahan tahun depan. Ke atas, ya. Ke atas. Itu yang pertama. Yang kedua, kita tahu daripada berita ini, i... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | The second is, we know from this news, which is Rafizi Ramli's response to Dr. Radzi Jidin, that there will be... and this has been mentioned before, but it was mentioned in Parliament. So, when it's mentioned in Parliament, it's considered valid. It confirms that the government is preparing a two-tier pricing system. ... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 7.1, "end": 12.1, "text": "but it was mentioned in Parliament. So, when it's mentioned in Parliament, it's considered valid."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 12.1, "end": 20.1, "text": "It confirms that the government is preparing a two-tier pricing system."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 20.1, "end": 21.... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Yang kedua, kita tahu daripada berita ini, iaitu jawapan saudara Tuan Rafizi Ramli"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 7.1, "text": "kepada yang berhormat Dr. Radzi Jidin, bahawa akan ada.... dan ini pernah pun disebut,"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 7.1, "end": 12.1, "te... | 2 | The second is, we know from this news, which is Rafizi Ramli's response to Dr. Radzi Jidin, that there will be... and this has been mentioned before, but it was mentioned in Parliament. So, when it's mentioned in Parliament, it's considered valid. It confirms that the government is preparing a two-tier pricing system. ... | Yang kedua, kita tahu daripada berita ini, iaitu jawapan saudara Tuan Rafizi Ramli kepada yang berhormat Dr. Radzi Jidin, bahawa akan ada.... dan ini pernah pun disebut, tetapi disebut di Parlimen. Jadi bila disebut di parlimen, ia lagi sahih lah. Confirm bahawa kerajaan sedang menyediakan satu sistem harga dua tier. Y... | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | Two tiers. Meaning, for RON95. So, those in the T15 group, the top 15% in terms of wealth or income, will pay the market price, and the other 85% will pay the subsidized price. Yes. And this measure is said to save almost RM8 billion annually. So, is this helpful? | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 7.5, "end": 16.5, "text": "will pay the market price, and the other 85% will pay the subsidized price."}, {"speaker": 0, "start": 16.5, "end": 17.5, "text": "Yes."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 17.5, "end": 24.5, "text": "And this measure is said to save almost RM8 billion annually."}, {"speaker": ... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "Dua tier. Maknanya untuk RON 95."}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 7.5, "text": "Jadi mereka yang T15, 15% ke atas dari segi kekayaan ataupun dari segi pendapatan"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 7.5, "end": 16.5, "text": "akan bayar harga pasaran dan juga 85% yang lain a... | 2 | Two tiers. Meaning, for RON95. So, those in the T15 group, the top 15% in terms of wealth or income, will pay the market price, and the other 85% will pay the subsidized price. Yes. And this measure is said to save almost RM8 billion annually. So, is this helpful? | Dua tier. Maknanya untuk RON 95. Jadi mereka yang T15, 15% ke atas dari segi kekayaan ataupun dari segi pendapatan akan bayar harga pasaran dan juga 85% yang lain akan bayar harga yang disubsidikan. Ya. Dan langkah ini dikatakan boleh menjimatkan hampir RM8 bilion satu tahun. So adakah ini membantu? | ||||||||
-X680LVdHSg | So, is this helpful? Do you think, based on what's been said, we can anticipate what will happen at the petrol pump, at the petrol station, when we fill up later? Another thing mentioned is that the T15 group will likely be identified based on locality. | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 5.501, "end": 11.501, "text": "what will happen at the petrol pump, at the petrol station, when we fill up later?"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 11.501, "end": 17.501, "text": "Another thing mentioned is that the T15 group will likely"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 17.501, "end": 23.501, "text": "be id... | [{"speaker": 1, "start": 0, "end": 0.5, "text": "So adakah ini membantu?"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 0.5, "end": 5.501, "text": "Do you think from this, apa yang telahpun disebut, kita dapat tahu"}, {"speaker": 1, "start": 5.501, "end": 11.501, "text": "apa yang akan jadi di petrol pump, di stesen petrol, bila kita isi ... | 2 | So, is this helpful? Do you think, based on what's been said, we can anticipate what will happen at the petrol pump, at the petrol station, when we fill up later? Another thing mentioned is that the T15 group will likely be identified based on locality. | So adakah ini membantu? Do you think from this, apa yang telahpun disebut, kita dapat tahu apa yang akan jadi di petrol pump, di stesen petrol, bila kita isi minyak nanti. Satu lagi benda yang disebut adalah T15, kumpulan T15 ini kemungkinan besar akan dikenalpasti, akan ditentukan berdasarkan kepada locality. |
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khursanirevo/multiturn_test_3_videos
Test Dataset - 3 Videos
This is a test dataset with 3 videos to debug column preservation.
Columns
audio: Playable stereo audio (24kHz)video_id: YouTube video identifiersentence: Full transcript for the chunk (English)segments_en: JSON list of English speaker turnssegments_ms: JSON list of Malay speaker turnstotal_speakers: Number of speakers in chunk- Multi-language transcript columns
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- Videos tested: 0Pq8RFCLbgM, -yIVMNm2ZQU, -X680LVdHSg
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